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Re: 6to4/SIT and IP DF

To: David Stevens <dlstevens@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 6to4/SIT and IP DF
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:28:28 +0300 (EEST)
Cc: r.venning@xxxxxxxxxxx, <nate@xxxxxxxxxx>, <davem@xxxxxxxxxx>, <netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, David Stevens wrote:
> I was trying out 6to4 and noticed that the v4 encapsulating header has DF
> set, which RFC3056 says should not be set.
> 
> Because ICMPv4 won't, in general, include enough packet to determine the
> original v6 sender, end-to-end PMTU won't work. The possible use I could
> see is if the tunnel MTU is modified based on the PTMU (I didn't check),
> but  that's probably not a good idea for any tunnels  that have "any" as
> the remote v4 address. Doing that would force all MTU's to the lowest of
> any v4 destination's path.
> 
> So, I think it's appropriate to always clear IP DF in the IPv4 header
> generated by SIT, but I thought I'd see if anyone else has a comment on
> that before I submit the trivial patch. :-)
> 
> Any thoughts?

Seems like a good idea.  The only thing I'm worried about is when someone
is attached to a network of at least 1500 MTU (at IPv6 level), and uses
6to4 -- then basically every IPv6 packet over 1480 bytes will be
fragmented in the network, even though it could potentially be chopped to
smaller pieces already in the end-nodes.

Just wondering how our 6to4 implementation handles this case at the 
moment..

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Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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