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Subject: system hang under remove security
From: "Olson, John C" <John.Olson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:46:41 -0400
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Hello,

Have been working with Andrey Savochkin on a problem that I have been
experiencing with the 2.4.16 kernel and he suggested that I contact you to
see if you had experience with it.  

The key points are:
*       my system hung (didn't respond to keyboard, remote and so on) when I
ran remote network scanner (nessus - specifically udp scans for mstream and
trinoo although it fails for more than that)
*       I had all my services disabled (see netstat output below)
*       I've tried it with eepro100 and 3com card, with the same result
*       my kernel is 2.4.16 (SuSE provided for 7.3 professional)
*       Running on a Compaq ML370 with a 4200 controller

Here is a listing of my netstat -a:
        Active Internet connections (servers and established)
        Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address
State
        raw        0      0 *:raw                   *:*
7
        Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
        Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node Path
        unix  6      [ ]         DGRAM                    620    /dev/log
        unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     3352
        unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     3351
        unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    3309
        unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    1207
        unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    1058
        unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    826
Here is a listing of lsmod:
        Module                  Size  Used by
        af_packet              12976   1  (autoclean)
        3c59x                  22240   1  (autoclean)
        pci-scan                3440   1  (autoclean) [3c59x]
        lvm-mod                45440  13  (autoclean)
        reiserfs              153520   8
        ncr53c8xx              51856   0  (unused)
        cpqarray               16208   4

The question: are there known vulnerabilities of this kind?  It seems like I
have (in my mind) narrowed this problem down to either a kernel or IP stack
problem.  Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Savochkin [mailto:saw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:43 AM
To: Olson, John C
Subject: Re: 2.4.16 freezed up with eepro100 module


On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:24:39AM -0400, Olson, John C wrote:
> BTW - just tried the same thing with sshd turned off as well (i.e. only
> thing listening was raw) and it still crashed.  Doesn't that mean that the
> only things left to check are the ip stack, kernel and driver?  Since I've
> gone through multiple drivers and cards, shouldn't that take out the
driver
> leaving the stack and kernel?

You've done it already, by trying 2 different drivers: eepro100 and 3com,
right?  So, you've eliminated the driver.

I think, it's the time to ask other kernel people,
Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> or the mailing list netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxx

The key points are:
 - your system hung (didn't respond to keyboard and so on) when
   you ran remote network scanner, doing nessus or whatever attacks
 - you had all your services disabled (provide netstat output)
 - you've tried it with eepro100 and 3com card, with the same result
 - your kernel is 2.4.16 (add whether it's a mainstream or redhat kernel)
The question: are there known vulnerabilities of this kind?

And pick up a reasonable subject, like "system hang under remove security
scan" :-)

        Andrey


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