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Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19

To: jamal <hadi@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19
From: wietse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Wietse Venema)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: Wietse Venema <wietse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, kuznet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@xxxxxx>, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx
In-reply-to: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0109061612450.14727-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "from jamal at Sep 6, 2001 04:20:39 pm"
Sender: owner-netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Please stop that BSD versus Linux drivel. Either make a constructive
contribution or be silent.

I don't care what API is "superior", as long as it provides me with
the information that I want.

        Wietse

jamal:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote:
> 
> > Alan Cox:
> > > > Soldiers are marching down the street. The mother of one of those
> > > > soldiers is ever so proud.  All the other guys are marching out of
> > > > step.  Her son is the only one who does it right.
> > > >
> > > > That's what it looks like for a person who writes Internet software
> > > > that aims to work on a wide variety of platforms.
> > >
> > > I think you have the metaphor wrong. The older API is a bit like the
> > > cavalry charging into battle at the start of world war one. It may have 
> > > been
> > > how everyone did it but they guys with the "newfangled, really not how it
> > > should be done, definitely not cricket"  machine guns got the last laugh
> >
> > Keep your superiority complex out of my mailbox, thank you.
> >
> 
> Wietse,
> 
> netlink, as a few people have pointed to you is the 'proper' way to do
> things. Sure, the BSDs did it the way you love it, but linux is a
> different operating system (cut the "if its not Scottish its crap
> mentality"). Netlink does improve on "the way its always been done for
> the last 80 years". Infact netlink has already been approved to be (at
> least informational) RFC. Look at a slightly dated draft at:
> http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-salim-netlink-jhshk-00.txt
> Maybe you should preach to the BSDs about netlink?
> 
> cheers,
> jamal
> 
> PS:- If you want help on writting netlink based code to achieve what you
> are trying to do, just yell. Look at the source for the ip utility which
> is within the iproute2 package.
> 
> 


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