What's up with this list?

Troy McCorkell tdm at sgi.com
Thu Sep 17 11:54:43 CDT 2015


On 09/16/2015 07:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> El 2014-09-18 a las 10:33 -0500, Troy McCorkell escribió:
>> On 09/18/2014 07:46 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>       Hi,
>>
>>       Now an then I get messages like this:
>>
>>       ++·································
>>       Your membership in the mailing list xfs has been disabled due to
>>       excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>>       18-Sep-2014.  You will not get any more messages from this list 
>> until
>>       you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more 
>> reminders like
>>       this before your membership in the list is deleted.
>>
>>       To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this 
>> message
>>       (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation 
>> page at
>>
>>       ...
>>
>>       ·································++-
>>
>>
>>       Bounces? I'm subscribed to several mail lists, and this is the 
>> only one "complaining". And as I do not know
>>       what messages bounced, I can not investigate it.
>>
>>       My guess is that those emails were clear and flagrant spam, and 
>> as such were rejected by my ISP.
>>
>>       The mail list should refuse them on entry and not resend them 
>> to the listers.
>>
>>       - -- Cheers,
>>              Carlos E. R.
>>              (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
>>
>> Carlos,
>>
>> I will forward your email to the SGI IT group.
>
> Well, I got no further feedback, and the issue continues, a year later.
>
> As I see it, it goes like this:
>
> Spam is sent to the list. The list forwards it to subscribers. Some 
> mail servers, like my ISP, point blank refuse to accept what is 
> flagrant spam; not a doubt about it, it doesn't reach the spam folder. 
> That spam probably breaks a rule such as having no valid sender 
> domain, breaking SPF, something. I don't know for sure, because I can 
> not see the logs of my ISP. But the oss.sgi.com admin can, surely.
>
>
> The problem for me is that this list server automatically unsubscribes 
> me, and I have to re-subscribe, posibly loosing interveening posts.
>
>
> I suggest that the list server implements filters to remove those spam 
> mails on entry, instead of forwarding them. Alternatively, other mail 
> list servers send a probe email to the subscriber; if the probe 
> bounces, twice, then the subscription is temporarily disabled. But 
> they don't unsubscribe people because some "list" posts bounce, unless 
> it is excesive.
>
>
> - -- Cheers
>        Carlos E. R.
>
>        (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
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I'll chat with the SGI IT group again.

Thanks,
Troy
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