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y 1670s between the philosopher Thomas Hobbes and the scientist Robert Boy=
le. The original dispute starting it all was taking place she showed how i=
mportant non-humans and the relations they create by being part of collect=
ives are which to a large degree has been misunderstood and misinterpreted=
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the effort it takes to establish contact to these collectives. The questio=
n is how much interest do ordinary people have to become part of the hacke=
r or Open Source col</font>
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t or Cyberspace is only possible through interconnected and very real mate=
rial computers through which virtual quasi-objects can circulate efforts i=
nvolving entering a symmetrical relationship with the computer and program=
s.[34] People would have to learn to use the tools utilized by the compute=
r and Cyberspace in a different way than ascribed by =CEoff the shelf=CC p=
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