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Subject: Re: What's up with this list?
From: Troy McCorkell <tdm@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:54:43 -0500
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On 09/16/2015 07:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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El 2014-09-18 a las 10:33 -0500, Troy McCorkell escribiÃ:
On 09/18/2014 07:46 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

ÂÂÂÂÂ Hi,

ÂÂÂÂÂ Now an then I get messages like this:

ÂÂÂÂÂ ++ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂ Your membership in the mailing list xfs has been disabled due to
ÂÂÂÂÂ excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
 18-Sep-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until
 you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like
ÂÂÂÂÂ this before your membership in the list is deleted.

ÂÂÂÂÂ To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
ÂÂÂÂÂ (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at

ÂÂÂÂÂ ...

ÂÂÂÂÂ ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ++-


ÂÂÂÂÂ Bounces? I'm subscribed to several mail lists, and this is the only one "complaining". And as I do not know
ÂÂÂÂÂ what messages bounced, I can not investigate it.

ÂÂÂÂÂ My guess is that those emails were clear and flagrant spam, and as such were rejected by my ISP.

ÂÂÂÂÂ The mail list should refuse them on entry and not resend them to the listers.

ÂÂÂÂÂ - -- Cheers,
ÂÂÂÂÂ ÂÂÂÂÂÂ Carlos E. R.
ÂÂÂÂÂ ÂÂÂÂÂÂ (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Carlos,

I will forward your email to the SGI IT group.

Well, I got no further feedback, and the issue continues, a year later.

As I see it, it goes like this:

Spam is sent to the list. The list forwards it to subscribers. Some mail servers, like my ISP, point blank refuse to accept what is flagrant spam; not a doubt about it, it doesn't reach the spam folder. That spam probably breaks a rule such as having no valid sender domain, breaking SPF, something. I don't know for sure, because I can not see the logs of my ISP. But the oss.sgi.com admin can, surely.


The problem for me is that this list server automatically unsubscribes me, and I have to re-subscribe, posibly loosing interveening posts.


I suggest that the list server implements filters to remove those spam mails on entry, instead of forwarding them. Alternatively, other mail list servers send a probe email to the subscriber; if the probe bounces, twice, then the subscription is temporarily disabled. But they don't unsubscribe people because some "list" posts bounce, unless it is excesive.


- -- Cheers
ÂÂÂÂÂÂ Carlos E. R.

ÂÂÂÂÂÂ (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
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I'll chat with the SGI IT group again.

Thanks,
Troy
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