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Re: Seeking testers - systemd service support

To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Seeking testers - systemd service support
From: Nathan Scott <nathans@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:04:04 -0400 (EDT)
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Thread-topic: Seeking testers - systemd service support
Welcome back!

----- Original Message -----
> [...]
> That's for a different reason.

Right, same end result though.

>  At this time, there appears to exist
> no widespread UNIXy infrastructure to package web application
> artifacts as reusable elements, so there's no way to link to a
> "system" copy of these.

Hmmm, "no way"?  How about creating packages for them, like the
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/jQuery project.

As discussed elsewhere before your vacation, I'm not comfortable
adding copies of 100s of 1000s of lines of javascript code and
images to core PCP from projects that we didn't author, nor have
plans/skills to maintain ourselves.

But, I certainly respect your right to have a different opinion.
This code can live in a separate tree, to reach the goal of a PCP
web interface in the short term (or long term, if your embedding
reluctance extends that far ... that would be up to you & anyone
else hacking in the web space though).

As we discussed, I think this will be a far better approach on a
number of fronts - I'll send a proposal for how this transition
could work shortly (sorry, busy working on testing & organising
the pending release, else I would've sent it earlier).

> > Since this embedding approach is one that Frank is keen on
> >  pursuing (and its his prerogative),
> 
> With respect to libmicrohttpd, I am not keen on pursuing this
> embedding approach, and as outlined above, the web application
> artifacts are only reluctantly embedded.  No "keen pursuit" here.

Oh, I was thinking of the recent thread where you wrote:

" [...] perhaps a better solution would be to arrange to
include a bundled copy of libmicrohttpd along the pcp tarball, and
build/link them together.  (I recall at one point, the code base
-did- have a bundled libmicrohttpd for just such reasons.)"
[ http://www.pcp.io/pipermail/pcp/2014-July/005248.html ]

Which came across to me as being something you were in favour of;
you also seemed unhappy when that code was removed originally, &
these new additions of extjs, grafana, graphite, etc ... all tend
to suggest a level of keen-ness to go with embedding in general.

cheers.

--
Nathan

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