Re: RFC: per-socket statistics on received/dropped packets

[Lincoln Dale <ltd@xxxxxxxxx>]

At 08:33 AM 12/06/2002 -0400, jamal wrote:
> > i know of many many folk who use transaction logs from HTTP caches for
> > volume-based billing.
> > right now, those bills are anywhere between 10% to 25% incorrect.
> >
> > you call that "extremely limited"?
>
> Surely, you must have better ways to do accounting than this -- otherwise
> you deserve to loose money.

many people don't have better ways to do accounting than this.

in the case of Squid and Linux, they're typically using it because its 
open-source and "free".

they want to use HTTP Caching to save bandwidth (and therefore save money), 
but they also live in a regime of volume-based billing.  (not everywhere on 
the planet is fixed-$/month for DSL).

the unfortunate solution is to use HTTP Transaction logs, which count 
payload at layer-7, not payload+headers+retransmissions at layer-3.

> > of course, i am doing exactly what Dave said to do -- maintaining my own
> > out-of-kernel patch -- but its a pain, i'm sure it will soon conflict with
> > stuff and is a damn shame - it isn't much code, but Dave seems pretty
> > steadfast that he isn't interested.
>
> You havent proven why its needed. And from the looks of it you dont even
> need it.

i don't need it because i already have it in my kernel.
but thats where it ends -- its destined to forever be a private patch.

> If 3 people need it, then i would like to ask we add lawn mower
> support that my relatives have been asking for the last 5 years.

lawn-mower support sounds like a userspace application to me.


cheers,

lincoln.