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Re: ipw2100: firmware problem

To: "David S. Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem
From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:25:07 +0300
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On Thursday 09 June 2005 09:16, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:09:55 +0300
> 
> > On Wednesday 08 June 2005 18:05, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> > > Currently, when we install the driver, it associates to any open network 
> > > on
> > > boot. This is good, cause we don't want to be typing the commands all the
> > > time just to associate. It works this way now and is pretty nice.
> > 
> > What is so nice about this? That Linux novice user with his new lappie
> > will join a neighbor's network every time he powers up the lappie,
> > even without knowing that?
> 
> I love this behavior, because it means that I don't have to do
> anything special to get my setup at home working.
> 
> Me caveman
> Me plug in wireless router
> Me watch pretty lights
> Me turn on computer
> Me up interface

You need to up interface? And surely you need ip addr? That's a knob also! :)

> Computer work
> Me no care other cavemen use wireless link
> 
> Configuration knobs are _madness_.  Things should work with minimal
> intervention and configuration.

Sure. I consider "iwconfig essid MyCave mode managed" a minimal intervention,
just like I consider "ip a a dev eth0 123.123.123.2/24 brd +; ip l set dev eth0 
up"
a miniman interventian if I need IP configured.
--
vda


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