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Re: The ultimate TOE design

To: Lincoln Dale <ltd@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design
From: Jörn Engel <joern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:38:09 +0200
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On Fri, 17 September 2004 08:37:17 +1000, Lincoln Dale wrote:
> 
> sure -- ok -- that gets you the main processor.
> now add to that a Northbridge (perhaps AMD doesnt need that but i'm sure it 
> still does), Southbridge, DDR-SDRAM, ancilliary chips for doing MAC, PHY, 
> ...
> 
> couple that with the voltage of PCI where you're likely to need 
> step-up/step-down circuits (which aren't 100% efficient themselves), you're 
> still going to get very close to the limit, if not over it.
> 
> ... and after all that, the Geode is really designed to be an embedded 
> processor.
> Jeff was implying using garden-variety processors which seem to have large 
> heatsinks, not to mention cooling fans, not to mention quite significant 
> heat generation.
> 
> we're not _quite_ at the stage of being able to take garden-variety 
> processors and build-your-own-blade-server using PCI _just_ yet. :-)

FWIW, I've already been working with complete systems that suck their
power from PCI.  They do exist, just not in the grocery store next
door.

Jörn

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