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Re: netlink drops messages.

To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: netlink drops messages.
From: Andi Kleen <ak@xxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:03:31 +0100
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@xxxxxx>, kuznet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx
In-reply-to: <20010117100506.D5122@nbase.co.il>; from gleb@nbase.co.il on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:06:34AM +0100
References: <20010116193553.B5122@nbase.co.il> <20010116210345.A8319@fred.local> <20010117100506.D5122@nbase.co.il>
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On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:06:34AM +0100, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 09:03:45PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 06:38:28PM +0100, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > >  Recently I noticed that when I simultaneously do 'up' to many network 
> > > interfaces
> > > (many is ~15) netlink drops part of the messages about interface state 
> > > change and thus 
> > > my userspace tools don't know that some interfaces are in up state now. 
> > > The error that 
> > > I get from netlink socket is "No buffer space available". 
> > > 
> > > After looking at the code I saw that the only way I can get such error 
> > > from netlink
> > > is if sk->rmem_allock is bigger than sk->rcvbuf. I can enlarge 
> > > sk->rcvbuf, but for each
> > > interface I receive six messages and each of this messages is smaller 
> > > then 200 bytes.
> > > the default size of sk->rcvbuf is 65535 bytes, so why messages about 15 
> > > interfaces can't
> > > fit in default buffer size?
> > 
> > Because the sk_buff header size is accounted too.
> > sk_buffs are not lightweight.
> >
> 
> Here is how NLMSG_GOODSIZE is defined:
> #define NLMSG_GOODSIZE (PAGE_SIZE - ((sizeof(struct sk_buff)+0xF)&~0xF))
> So sk_buff header is not an issue here.

I think you're misunderstanding what NLMSG_GOODSIZE is used for. It is 
just used to avoid multi page allocations for netlink.

The header is still accounted.

It's also a bit buggy, because when the sk_buff header has an already rounded
size it could forget to include the reference count in the data area, giving 
a 2page allocation. It should probably be
(PAGE_SIZE - ((sizeof(struct sk_buff)+sizeof(unsigned long)+0xF)&~0xF))

[+ even different for 2.5 zero copy pskbs] 

-Andi

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