| To: | Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: dummy as IMQ replacement |
| From: | jamal <hadi@xxxxxxxxxx> |
| Date: | 31 Jan 2005 15:08:31 -0500 |
| Cc: | Hasso Tepper <hasso@xxxxxxxxx>, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx, Nguyen Dinh Nam <nguyendinhnam@xxxxxxxxx>, Remus <rmocius@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andre Tomt <andre@xxxxxxxx>, syrius.ml@xxxxxxxxxx, Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Damion de Soto <damion@xxxxxxxxxxxx> |
| In-reply-to: | <20050131180048.GA24851@xi.wantstofly.org> |
| Organization: | jamalopolous |
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| Reply-to: | hadi@xxxxxxxxxx |
| Sender: | netdev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx |
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 13:00, Lennert Buytenhek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:46:14PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: > > > This is somewhat related to killing the chance to use iptables as well ... > > Iptables has better documentation and people use it just because of that. > > I'm afraid I have to agree on this one. Well, if you look at the 2 requirements behind IMQ, has nothing todo with iptables i.e does not at all require presence of iptables. So motivation is to meet those requirements not kill iptables. > The idea behind iptables is > easy to grasp, whereas tc isn't totally obvious, and all tc 'tutorials' > out there just give you a long list of commands to type in but don't > really explain you what goes on under the hood. > > And you can't just expect everyone to "Go look at the source." Agreed, tc is less usable and has a lot less people puking code at it. The usability part has to be fixed. And i think you will see that with ematch and eaction code showing up. Credit goes to Bart and co and their website for putting a lot of docs together. Usability certainly needs to improve! cheers, jamal |
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