| To: | Andreas Dilger <adilger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> |
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| Subject: | Re: [RFC] enhanced version of net_random() |
| From: | Lee Revell <rlrevell@xxxxxxxxxxx> |
| Date: | Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:24:15 -0400 |
| Cc: | Jean-Luc Cooke <jlcooke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@xxxxxxxx>, "David S. Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxx>, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@xxxxxxx>, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> |
| In-reply-to: | <20040820185956.GV8967@schnapps.adilger.int> |
| References: | <20040812104835.3b179f5a@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net> <20040820175952.GI5806@certainkey.com> <20040820185956.GV8967@schnapps.adilger.int> |
| Sender: | netdev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx |
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 14:59, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On Aug 20, 2004 13:59 -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote: > > Is there a reason why get_random_bytes() is unsuitable? > > > > Keeping the number of PRNGs in the kernel to a minimum should a goal we can > > all share. > > For some uses a decent PRNG is enough, and the overhead of get_random_bytes() > is much too high. Agreed. I have numbers to support the above. > We've needed something like this for a long time (something > that gives decenly uniform numbers) and hacks to use useconds/cycles/etc do > not cut it. I for one welcome a simple in-kernel interface to > e.g. get_urandom_bytes() (or net_random() as this is maybe inappropriately > called) that is only pseudo-random but fast and efficient. One problem is that AIUI, we incur this overhead even if a hardware RNG is present. This does not seem right. Hardware RNGs are increasingly common, Linux supports hardware RNGs from AMD, Intel, and VIA. Lee |
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