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RE: LKCD + KDB ?

To: "'r1vamsi@xxxxxxxxxx'" <r1vamsi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: LKCD + KDB ?
From: "Schaal, Richard" <richard.schaal@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:13:05 -0700
Cc: "Schaal, Richard" <richard.schaal@xxxxxxxxx>, lkcd@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sender: owner-lkcd@xxxxxxxxxxx
I think it would be relatively simple to have the dump_init code register a
dump system
function with the kernel debugger so that you could dump the system on
demand.  Note that 
not all problems are Oops related, and that a hung system, or one that is
grossly under performing
would be useful to get a snapshot of the activity at that time.  Manual
entry to the debugger
and manual dump would seem to be a useful thing.  - System survivability
after such a dump would be
nice, but not a show stopper at this point.

So far as the dumping or not after an oops and entering kdb, there is a
differentiation as to the reason
for entering the debugger - you might derive a dump/no dump directive from
whether you enter the debugger
by reason of breakpoint or oops?  

I used to work for Stratus Computer - at that time, a panic or oops would
put us into the debugger, and if we
were successful in patching up the problem, the system could resume
execution.  In Linux, after an oops, maybe
a "nodump" command would be useful as well to disable the dumping that might
normally occur.

Regards,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: r1vamsi@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:r1vamsi@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:55 AM
To: Matt D. Robinson
Cc: richard.schaal@xxxxxxxxx; lkcd@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: LKCD + KDB ?


When both KDB and LKCD patches are applied, we drop into KDB on an oops.
dump_execute will be called after we exit the debugger.

If all you want is to disable dump taking after exiting debugger, that is
easy enough with editing the dump_okay flag from within the debugger (or
add a kdb command to do this) as Matt points out. Assuming there is a good
reason for wanting to take the dump from within the debugger, one should
add a simple dump command to kdb, which will just call dump_execute with
proper regs. What you could do today is to set eip to dump_execute from
with in the kernel, editing the stack to push correct params :-) (not as
hard as it sounds, really)

However, the cleaner approach obviously is to add the kdb dump command,
once we understand a little better why exactly would one want to dump from
within the debugger (on an oops).

Regards.. Vamsi.

Vamsi Krishna S.
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Lab, Bangalore.
Ph: +91 80 5262355 Extn: 3959
Internet: r1vamsi@xxxxxxxxxx


Please respond to "Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To:   richard.schaal@xxxxxxxxx
cc:   lkcd@xxxxxxxxxxx (bcc: S Vamsikrishna/India/IBM)
Subject:  Re: LKCD + KDB ?



Richard Schaal wrote:
>
>
> My question is this - I have been a fan of the kernel debugger for some
> time, and have had a bit of difficulty
> resolving how to configure both capabilities into my kernel.  I guess
> what I'd like to have happen is to
> have the system enter the debugger on an oops, then have the option of
> dumping the system from the debugger, or
> to dump the system automatically after the debugger is exited.

There's no great way to do this right now.  If in kdb you can set the
field of 'dump_okay' field to FALSE, then reset it after dropping back
from the debugger state, that'd be fine.  I guess we could also add in
something for kdb, a one-time thing, so kdb can set dump_kdb to TRUE,
and when dump_execute() gets called, dump_kdb is checked, and if set
to TRUE, resets it to FALSE.  Then add a kdb command that sets the
field for you ...

Would that work?

--Matt

> What is your thinking on this?  Did I goof something up in applying the
> patches for the two features?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
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