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Subject: 4 questions
From: "Marton Kadar" <marton.kadar@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 01:31:38 +0800
Sender: owner-devfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
Hello all,

I use kernel 2.4.9 with devfs support, and installed devfsd too.
The fs is not mounted automatically, nor do I use the "only" option. I mount 
the fs manually, often not on /dev, and experiment with things before I finally 
dump the old /dev directory. I like the idea of devfs very much, but still have 
a few questions:

I have read in the FAQ the following sentence:
"Also, because the devfs namespace exists without any devfs mounts, you can 
easily mount the root filesystem by referring to an entry in the devfs 
namespace."

1. I find it a little confusing or at least not conceptually clear that I have 
to pass "root=/dev/ide/..." to the kernel even while the fs is not mounted 
anywhere, and that /proc/mounts will show the root device mounted on 
/dev/ide/... even though I might later mount the devfs to say /mnt/dev or to 
several mount points, all different from /dev, if I please. In fact the current 
setup suggests that the kernel mounts one single device node of the devfs tree 
but nothing else. This is kind of a chicken and egg problem: to be able to 
refer to the (root) device by node name (in order to mount it) you need the 
node, for the node to exist, however, you need the filesystem, which in turn 
needs the root device to be mounted. I would find it lots cleaner to be able to 
say "root=ide/..." or "root_device=ide/..." instead.

2. Can I persuade the kernel to mount the fs at boot time to something other 
than /dev?

3. Not strictly confined to devfs, but also to modutils, is this: If I compile 
my kernel with some devfs-aware modules, then basically the module (say sg.o) 
contains the information, what device node(s) it will implement (through 
devfs_register(), which I cannot change without kernel patching). Still I have 
to manually specify through a devfsd LOOKUP event and a modules.conf alias, 
that a request for module /dev/scsi/.../generic will really mean a request for 
module sg, although there is not a lot of other choices. I would appreciate 
comments on this apparent duplication.

4. Is devfsd the only designed way to autoload devfs-aware modules? As I 
understand it is the kernel-resident devfs code that detects the lookup event, 
and devfsd only knows about it via the .devfsd communication channel, so 
requesting the module would be simple without devfsd running, unless we want to 
carry out some special action.

So much for today 8^) I'll keep trying to clear the picture, but any help would 
be appreciated!

Marton
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