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Re: Default: insecure

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Subject: Re: Default: insecure
From: Robert Siemer <Robert.Siemer@xxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:32:40 +0200
In-reply-to: <200109201702.f8KH2Lh03467@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
References: <200109201531.f8KFVbP02796@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20010920184715A.siemer@panorama.hadiko.de> <200109201702.f8KH2Lh03467@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Robert Siemer writes:

> I'm thinking more about public workstations in a research lab.
> 
> > > The sysadmin does not want to be bothered by user requests "can you
> > > please give me access to the tape drive so I can back up my data?".
> > 
> > Backup should be the task of the admin!
> 
> Not if you have lots and lots of data. The admins backup home areas
> and software, but data is left to the users, who know what is worth
> backing up and what is not.
> 
> > Why should I and all the other "real" sysadmin be _bothered_ by
> > insecure defaults? It's already hard enough to double check every
> > step to _stay_ in a secure system...
> 
> Why should I and all the other real sysadmins who have hundreds of
> users be *bothered* with giving tape access every time it's asked
> for?

> In any case, I don't want to argue about this. We have different
> perspectives. Let's agree to disagree.

I'm sorry for being so aggressive. - I see - your scenario is real.
But how do you protect tape users from other users accessing their
tape during backup (... or just before)?


Regards,
                Robert

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