On ÐÐÑ, 2002-02-16 at 03:48, Martin MaÄok wrote:
> Hi,
> when I run rxvt/xterm/konsole/gnome-terminal, my pseudoterminals at
> /dev/pts/* does not own group "tty" so I cannot use
> % mesg y
> mesg: error: tty device is not owned by group `tty'
>
> and users cannot "talk" to each other.
>
> When I log on text console, permission for /dev/vc/* are owned by
> group tty so talk here works.
>
> Is it problem with devfs? pam? init?
>
Well, I am really confused here.
- permissions for console (/dev/tty*) are (most probably) set either by
mingetty or by login. Neither pam nor devfsd are responsible for them.
- Mandrake by default is using devpts so you could specify group by
adding gid=5 in /etc/fstab to /dev/pts line. You could also change modes
from default 644 if you want
- still devfs documentation tells us we should not use devpts with
devfs; and I am not sure who wins. pty.c registers /dev/pts/? with
current owner and 600 permissions; and here I have
{pts/1}% ll /dev/pts
ÐÑÐÐÐ 0
crw--w---- 1 bor bor 136, 0 ÐÐÐ 16 16:11 0
crw------- 1 bor bor 136, 1 ÐÐÐ 16 17:05 1
crw------- 1 bor bor 136, 2 ÐÐÐ 16 17:03 2
crw------- 1 bor bor 136, 3 ÐÐÐ 16 17:04 3
that looks like pts/0 got permissions from devpts and others from devfs
because default mount for devpts here is 640
- and /etc/devfsd.conf tells us we must not fiddle with /dev/pt{s,y}
permissions.
So could anybody give ultimate answer on
- should devpts be used in presence of devfs?
- how to manage permissions of pts - i.e. why they cannot be managed by
devfsd?
-andrej
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