Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list xfs); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k77ErJDW011973 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 07:53:22 -0700 Received: from [212.227.126.202] (helo=mrvnet.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1GA4uB-0002sd-00; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:12:27 +0200 Received: from [172.23.1.26] (helo=xchgsmtp.exchange.xchg) by mrvnet.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1GA4uB-0006Uz-00; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:12:27 +0200 Received: from mapibe17.exchange.xchg ([172.23.1.54]) by xchgsmtp.exchange.xchg with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:12:26 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Concurrent mount of XFS over SAN Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:12:23 +0200 Message-ID: <55EF1E5D5804A542A6CA37E446DDC206393335@mapibe17.exchange.xchg> In-Reply-To: <44D71DA2.2020409@skynet.be> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Concurrent mount of XFS over SAN thread-index: Aca6IPbxJsp25gsURhGf/CC01+qUwgAAUCHg From: "Sebastian Brings" To: "kris buggenhout" , "Jan-Frode Myklebust" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2006 13:12:26.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[2114F0C0:01C6BA23] X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de ident:@172.23.1.26 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by oss.sgi.com id k77ErMDW011985 X-archive-position: 8589 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: sebas@silexmedia.com Precedence: bulk X-list: xfs Content-Length: 2277 Lines: 73 Maybe off topic meanwhile, but both Irix volume managers xlv and xvm have the owner stored in the header. Xvm also has an understanding of a cluster owning the volume, which is required for cxfs. In a failover environment you absolutely have to make sure the failed machine really has no more access to the volume, preferably by fencing the FC switch ports, before you mount it on the standby system. STONITH implementations also work, but still two machines have to agree on the ownership when the failed machine comes up again. Cheers Sebastian > -----Original Message----- > From: xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com [mailto:xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com] On Behalf Of > kris buggenhout > Sent: Montag, 7. August 2006 13:02 > To: Jan-Frode Myklebust > Cc: linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com > Subject: Re: Concurrent mount of XFS over SAN > > afaik, the node was stored in xlv, which was an extra option in IRIX, ( > extra license) but this could later be used in CXFS which allows > multiple machines to mount the same FS read write from a SAN, made for > clusters, HA and HPC... > > knowledge of the node "owning" the device was in there for protection. > but can be overridden with an xlv command. > > kind regards, Kris > > Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > > On 2006-08-07, Heilige Gheist wrote: > > > >> It's obvious that I can always fall back to the inter-node heart-beat > >> to ensure that only one node is mounting the filesystem. > >> I'm just wondering if there's any facility or accepted practice to > >> enforce it. > >> > > > > STONITH (Shoot The Other Node In The Head) trough smart power switches > > or management adapters in the node. > > > > SCSI reserve/release ... No idea how reliable this is on a SAN, but the > > ServeRAID-version works great. http://www.linux-ha.org/ServeRAID > > > > Export the volume group, or scsi device on the first node, before > > importing/attaching it on the second .. Probably best to use together > > with STONITH, in case the first node fails on unmounting/exporting. > > > > BTW: I think XFS on IRIX had the owning node name in the file system > header, > > and only would allow this node to mount the fs. But I can't find this > now... > > Maybe it's gone, or maybe it was in xlv.. ? > > > > > > -jf > > > > > > > > > > >