X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rupdated (updated) on oss.sgi.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,J_CHICKENPOX_14, J_CHICKENPOX_74 autolearn=no version=3.3.0-rupdated Received: from cuda.sgi.com (cuda3.sgi.com [192.48.176.15]) by oss.sgi.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id n16ALqXM016333 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:21:53 -0600 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1233915672-11c103580000-S8gJnT X-Barracuda-URL: http://cuda.sgi.com:80/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from postoffice2.aconex.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cuda.sgi.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id D9AF9151629F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice2.aconex.com (mail.aconex.com [203.89.202.182]) by cuda.sgi.com with ESMTP id 1HTr11OLjkkL965G for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.aconex.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice2.aconex.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id 8AF22B67F9; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +1100 (EST) Received: from postoffice.aconex.com (postoffice.yarra.acx [192.168.102.1]) by postoffice2.aconex.com with ESMTP id K6mlMwSwAqMypsIv; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (c220-239-214-222.fernt2.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.239.214.222]) by postoffice.aconex.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5437792C293; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +1100 (EST) X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [pcp] Source and binary packaging - future directions Subject: Re: [pcp] Source and binary packaging - future directions From: Nathan Scott To: Max Matveev Cc: Mark Goodwin , kenj@internode.on.net, pcp@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <18828.2923.770660.413637@aldan.crabbed.net> References: <1233627045.5518.55.camel@verge.scott.net.au> <18825.23091.63084.898574@aldan.crabbed.net> <1233742073.10265.1.camel@bozo> <1233786804.24330.15.camel@verge.scott.net.au> <498A6CD0.7010002@gmail.com> <18826.49390.974151.5980@aldan.crabbed.net> <1233876585.19028.19.camel@verge.scott.net.au> <18828.2923.770660.413637@aldan.crabbed.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:17:55 +1100 Message-Id: <1233915475.4556.11.camel@verge.scott.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Barracuda-Connect: mail.aconex.com[203.89.202.182] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1233915674 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0164 1.0000 -1.9142 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by cuda.sgi.com at sgi.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -1.41 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-1.41 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=2.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=2.1 tests=BSF_RULE7568M X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.1.17151 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.50 BSF_RULE7568M Custom Rule 7568M X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on oss.sgi.com X-Virus-Status: Clean On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 21:05 +1100, Max Matveev wrote: > On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:29:45 +1100, Nathan Scott wrote: > >> generation (can kmchart do that?), > > NS> kmchart^WThe new pmchart (qt, really) can generate 10+ > NS> different image formats, including gif. > > In the batch mode too? Yes. > ..I mean the way windows were layed out in pmchart - there were > people relying on this layout to insert the images generated by > pmchart into web pages. Layout from the command line is very similar between the two. > It's true but I really don't think that getting into the game of > implementing pmchart bugs in kmchart is a good idea but in the end > you're the one who does most (all?) of the work, so it's your call. The worst part of the km* naming scheme is it was fine for just one binary, then kmtime came along, then kmquery, then dumptext got ported over to qt & what made sense initially now has got out of hand. And as additional tools drop out of the SGI OSRB, continuing this naming scheme is just more and more obfuscated ... try explaining it to punters at a PCP talk @work or worse a conference (on observers faces: "is that a typo?", "shouldnt that be...", "but everything else was pm-something, that sticks out like dogs balls!", etc, etc). cheers. ps: Fedora10 has changed rpm options/syntax/configs/... & the pcp/pcp-gui Makepkgs is b0rked - any interest in having a look, Max? You know this stuff better than anyone (Ken said you'd _really_ want to take a look... ;) -- Nathan