Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list netdev); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from xi.wantstofly.org (alephnull.demon.nl [212.238.201.82]) by oss.sgi.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0VI0opl012017 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:00:51 -0800 Received: by xi.wantstofly.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id F03212B0EC; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:00:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:00:48 +0100 From: Lennert Buytenhek To: Hasso Tepper Cc: hadi@cyberus.ca, netdev@oss.sgi.com, Nguyen Dinh Nam , Remus , Andre Tomt , syrius.ml@no-log.org, Andy Furniss , Damion de Soto Subject: Re: dummy as IMQ replacement Message-ID: <20050131180048.GA24851@xi.wantstofly.org> References: <1107123123.8021.80.camel@jzny.localdomain> <200501311614.31397.hasso@estpak.ee> <1107181551.7847.193.camel@jzny.localdomain> <200501311646.14322.hasso@estpak.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501311646.14322.hasso@estpak.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/650/Sun Jan 2 19:00:02 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on 127.0.0.1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 1105 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: buytenh@wantstofly.org Precedence: bulk X-list: netdev Content-Length: 546 Lines: 14 On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:46:14PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: > This is somewhat related to killing the chance to use iptables as well ... > Iptables has better documentation and people use it just because of that. I'm afraid I have to agree on this one. The idea behind iptables is easy to grasp, whereas tc isn't totally obvious, and all tc 'tutorials' out there just give you a long list of commands to type in but don't really explain you what goes on under the hood. And you can't just expect everyone to "Go look at the source." --L