Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f49EPCB29373 for netdev-outgoing; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:25:12 -0700 Received: from xi.linuxpower.cx (IDENT:postfix@[63.95.87.168]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f49EPAF29370 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:25:10 -0700 Received: by xi.linuxpower.cx (Postfix, from userid 500) id ACE932D60C; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:25:09 -0400 From: Gregory Maxwell To: Horst von Brand Cc: jamal , netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu, Sally Floyd , kk@teraoptic.com, jitu@aciri.org Subject: Re: ECN: Volunteers needed Message-ID: <20010509102509.B13226@xi.linuxpower.cx> References: <200105091410.f49EATO2002043@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.8i In-Reply-To: <200105091410.f49EATO2002043@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl>; from vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:10:29AM -0400 Sender: owner-netdev@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:10:29AM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: > Gregory Maxwell said: > > [...] > > > Anyone have any friends at AOL? I wonder what the effect on these > > non-conformant sites would be if AOL's proxy's became ECN enabled? > > And AOL is sure crazy enough to "break compatibility with everybody" just > out of courtesy to someone's friend call. > > Get real, it _won't_ happen unless they are forced to do so. Standard or > not. 1) It's not everybody. 2) They certainly are. Every once in a while they go through a period of silently dropping all email coming from hosts that don't have PTRs. This would be no worse.