Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list csa); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omx2.sgi.com (omx2-ext.sgi.com [192.48.171.19]) by oss.sgi.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9FE5vpm003202 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:05:58 -0700 Received: from flecktone.americas.sgi.com (flecktone.americas.sgi.com [198.149.16.15]) by omx2.sgi.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/linux-outbound_gateway-1.1) with ESMTP id i9FFIQ2F017008 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:18:26 -0700 Received: from thistle-e236.americas.sgi.com (thistle-e236.americas.sgi.com [128.162.236.204]) by flecktone.americas.sgi.com (8.12.9/8.12.10/SGI_generic_relay-1.2) with ESMTP id i9FE3IJV008407; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from subway.americas.sgi.com (subway.americas.sgi.com [128.162.236.152]) by thistle-e236.americas.sgi.com (8.12.9/SGI-server-1.8) with ESMTP id i9FE3ItC13098436; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from subway.americas.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by subway.americas.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/erikj-IRIX6519-news) with ESMTP id i9FE3Hcc1205969; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (erikj@localhost) by subway.americas.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id i9FE3HFr1204047; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0500 From: Erik Jacobson To: John Logsdon cc: Robin Holt , csa@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Availability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 47 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: csa-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: csa-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: erikj@subway.americas.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: csa I read your not. I'm still going to see what Jay says about this. If he thinks we need to bring the PAGG and JOB patches up to date for 2.4.x, I'd be happy to work on that. > Since CSA requires PAGG, in due course it would be appropriate to combine > the patches but I guess you can always append the patch files and run it > in one go. What's the JOB patch? I don't see it on the SGI project list. > (Actually your ftp server seems to hang episodically, particularly on IE). I don't know anything about the web site hanging - sorry. But here is the project page for PAGG and Job: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pagg/ PAGG is sort of a generic patch for making kernel modules that need to group processes together. It provides callbacks that can notify your kernel module when a process forks, execs, exits, etc. It is not specific to CSA - we have things at SGI that make use of PAGG but not CSA and Job. Job provides inescapable job containers. It is one of the users of PAGG. CSA uses both PAGG and Job. Job on it's own could be useful, for example, for people writing batch schedulers, where you want to track a job container that may contain multiple processes and manage it (throttle it, etc). Since a given job may need to start other processes to do it's work, it is convenient to be able to collect it together inside a container even if you're not interested in running CSA. I guess I'm trying to say that Job and especially PAGG stand on their own for the most part... I hope that helps. Erik