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Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers

To: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers
From: Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:25:00 -0600
Cc: elder@xxxxxxxxxx, Mark Tinguely <tinguely@xxxxxxx>, "linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On 11/08/2013 04:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> Hey Ric,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>> Hey Christoph,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
>>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago.  The holiday season is
>>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
>>>>> bear, and eat my hat.  I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
>>>>> exploring on Mars.  I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
>>>>> awesome.
>>>>
>>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
>>>> a fan base.
>>> It's posted for review.
>>>
>>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
>>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major
>>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
>>>> contributor to start with.
>>>>
>>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
>>>> definition from Trond here again:
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>>>>
>>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
>>>> be the maintainer.  He's been the main contributor and chief architect
>>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
>>>> of SGI.  This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
>>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
>>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
>>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
>>>> would help us forward a lot.  It would also avoid having to spend
>>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>>>>
>>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
>>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
>>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
>>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
>>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
>>> I think we're doing a decent job too.  So thanks for that much at least.  ;)
>>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
>>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
>>>> trying to enforce on the community.
>>> That really didn't happen Christoph.  It's not in my tree or in a pull 
>>> request.
>>>
>>> Linus, let me know what you want to do.  I do think we're doing a fair job 
>>> over
>>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
>>> busy.  I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, 
>>> but
>>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in.  Ouch.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Ben
>>
>> Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
>>
>> Jeff is from Oracle.
>>
>> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
> 
> Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
>        
>> Dave simply has earned the right
>> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
> 
> Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys.  ;)
> 
> From: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
> 
> xfs: update maintainers 
> 
> Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>

And just so everybody knows I'm cool with this...

Reviewed-by: Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx>

(Or use Signed-off-by: if you think that's more appropriate.)

                                        -Alex

> ---
>  MAINTAINERS |    2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> Index: b/MAINTAINERS
> ===================================================================
> --- a/MAINTAINERS     2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS     2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
> @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F:      drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
>  
>  XFS FILESYSTEM
>  P:   Silicon Graphics Inc
> +M:   Dave Chinner <dchinner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  M:   Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
> -M:   Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  M:   xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  L:   xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  W:   http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs
> 
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