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Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers

To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers
From: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:17:44 -0600
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx, elder@xxxxxxxxxx, Mark Tinguely <tinguely@xxxxxxx>, "linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hey Ric,

On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:07:45PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> On 11/08/2013 05:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> >Hey Ric,
> >
> >On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> >>On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> >>>Hey Christoph,
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >>>>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
> >>>>>Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
> >>>>>Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago.  The holiday season is
> >>>>>coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
> >>>>>bear, and eat my hat.  I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
> >>>>>exploring on Mars.  I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
> >>>>>awesome.
> >>>>Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
> >>>>a fan base.
> >>>It's posted for review.
> >>>
> >>>>While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
> >>>>development making decisions without even contacting the major
> >>>>contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
> >>>>contributor to start with.
> >>>>
> >>>>Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
> >>>>definition from Trond here again:
> >>>>
> >>>>  
> >>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
> >>>>
> >>>>By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
> >>>>be the maintainer.  He's been the main contributor and chief architect
> >>>>for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
> >>>>of SGI.  This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
> >>>>doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
> >>>>same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
> >>>>involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
> >>>>would help us forward a lot.  It would also avoid having to spend
> >>>>considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
> >>>>XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
> >>>>architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
> >>>>retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
> >>>>maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
> >>>I think we're doing a decent job too.  So thanks for that much at least.  
> >>>;)
> >>>>I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
> >>>>unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
> >>>>trying to enforce on the community.
> >>>That really didn't happen Christoph.  It's not in my tree or in a pull 
> >>>request.
> >>>
> >>>Linus, let me know what you want to do.  I do think we're doing a fair job 
> >>>over
> >>>here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
> >>>busy.  I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, 
> >>>but
> >>>they really don't need to replace me to get their code in.  Ouch.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>   Ben
> >>Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
> >>
> >>Jeff is from Oracle.
> >>
> >>This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
> >Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
> I do appreciate the work and effort you and the SGI team put in but
> think that this will be a good way to keep the community happier and
> even more productive going forward.
> >>Dave simply has earned the right
> >>to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
> >Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys.  ;)
> Those should come from the developers, thanks!

I actually do need your Reviewed-by.   We'll try and get this one in 3.13.  ;)


> >From: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
> >
> >xfs: update maintainers
> >
> >Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
> >---
> >  MAINTAINERS |    2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> >===================================================================
> >--- a/MAINTAINERS    2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
> >+++ b/MAINTAINERS    2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
> >@@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F:     drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
> >  P: Silicon Graphics Inc
> >+M:  Dave Chinner <dchinner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >  M: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx>
> >-M:  Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >  M: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >  L: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >  W: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs

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