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Re: Xfs_repair and journalling

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Subject: Re: Xfs_repair and journalling
From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:24:28 +0100
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Subranshu Patel <spatel.ml@xxxxxxxxx>, xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Am Dienstag, 19. März 2013 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
> Martin, I didn't state that ext4 cannot perform journal recovery, which
> you previously misunderstood.  As mentioned above I stated it made a
> call to e2fsck to perform the task.  And, again, apparently this is not
> the case.  If you want to excoriate me for getting this wrong, that's
> fine.  But don't do it in a way that suggests it was intentional, or
> that I made no effort to verify the information before I stated it.  I
> spent at least 30 minutes Googling trying to track down documents
> explaining the ext4 journal recovery code in the kernel.  I simply
> didn't find any.  The only thing I found were descriptions of e2fsck
> based journal recovery.

Stan, you are still a XFS expert, you are still a hardware expert, and I 
love reading your posts at debian-user, I sometimes even search for those, 
you still know a lot and heck you are still Stan and as such without any 
achievement or knowledge at all a precious being.

Just like anyone else on this list (and elsewhere) is a precious being just 
as they are.

So whats so difficult with admitting that what you wrote about Ext4 and 
journal replay as at least misleading?

Heck, even I was confused at first. Cause the manpage of fsck.ext4 IMHO is 
not really clear about that topic to say the least. I tested it out for a 
reason.

I am concerned about the tendency I perceive in open source, heck general 
computer communities to bind own value to being right on a topic. There is 
no, absolutely no connection at all. You and everyone else is valuable and 
precious without any prerequisite at all.

I also take some to learn out of this myself: Cause I was obsessed with 
being right myself and bound my value to it as well. I have overdone my 
previous mails. Sorry for that.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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