| To: | Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support |
| From: | Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx> |
| Date: | Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:19:20 -0400 |
| Cc: | Mark Lord <liml@xxxxxx>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@xxxxxxxxx>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@xxxxxxxxx>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx, linux-fsdevel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-scsi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jens.axboe@xxxxxxxxxx, "IDE/ATA development list" <linux-ide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> |
| Dkim-signature: | v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X/DdlgigTC28w1frsNQwh2Ofo2kAofwxNRwIyb80yeA=; b=x4JWT1HIiLgIXHSDdcGVNBObxzxQFSc06OFmjMlILY8LPXu8r4gHo9nAQBDKcIb+3K +FqWmcGbSrAtKcEMzTk3yvPY8eDAimpT6o4Ihq0fuyvhtSmQD/s6TuuEcSSUbiFJRBAe vx0C6bCmHXX9yrcYu0YMCmn0RFZoNCS14IEOk= |
| Domainkey-signature: | a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n6BbcESG+x8XpOu/POE7M+C2SvVo24/WEwFhAxI1saig5Jp6GDxIWOTIsv2+Pmduyp Y1oulDh0j8QlkHuKcLzizmeKOcsvEZVsD3m0HJUkmTPuauf5E+DUcXwFzAw7FWDc7/9+ Zc7h3oAa3Ov5hXMHXw7+Ogt1bHXoHFRHfhdmI= |
| In-reply-to: | <4A8D60C1.6000809@xxxxxxxxxx> |
| References: | <20090816004705.GA7347@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <20090819203916.GA25296@xxxxxxx> <4A8CA956.2060406@xxxxxx> <4A8D5442.1000302@xxxxxxxxxx> <4A8D5FDB.7080505@xxxxxx> <4A8D60C1.6000809@xxxxxxxxxx> |
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ric Wheeler<rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/20/2009 10:38 AM, Mark Lord wrote: >> >> Ric Wheeler wrote: >>> >>> Note that returning consistent data is critical for devices that are >>> used in a RAID group since you will need each RAID block that is used >>> to compute the parity to continue to return the same data until you >>> overwrite it with new data :-) >>> >>> If we have a device that does not support this (or is misconfigured >>> not to do this), we should not use those devices in an MD group & do >>> discard against it... >> >> .. >> >> Well, that's a bit drastic. But the RAID software should at least >> not issue TRIM commands in ignorance of such. > > If the storage can return different data in a sequence of READ requests of > the same sector (with no writes), there is nothing RAID could do. It would > see total garbage... > >> Would it still be okay to do the TRIMs when the entire parity stripe >> (across all members) is being discarded? (As opposed to just partial >> data there being dropped) > > This should be safe if the MD bitmaps would prevent us from trying to > READ/regenerate parity for that stripe... > > ric The harder thing for mdraid is putting a stripe back in service. If even a single sector is written to a "discarded" stripe, the entire stripe has to be written with determinate data that has the right parity. ie. Only full stripes can be discarded and only full-stripes can be put back in service. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer Preservation and Forensic processing of Exchange Repositories White Paper - <http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/tng_whitepaper_fpe.html> The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com |
| Previous by Date: | Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support, Ric Wheeler |
|---|---|
| Next by Date: | Re: XFS corruption with failover, Lachlan McIlroy |
| Previous by Thread: | Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support, Ric Wheeler |
| Next by Thread: | Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support, James Bottomley |
| Indexes: | [Date] [Thread] [Top] [All Lists] |