| To: | Chris Mason <chris.mason@xxxxxxxxxx> |
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| Subject: | Re: [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) |
| From: | Nick Piggin <npiggin@xxxxxxx> |
| Date: | Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:16:01 +0100 |
| Cc: | Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@xxxxxxxxx>, Jamie Lokier <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-nfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx, linux-fsdevel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:36AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:32 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > > Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > >> Is there anything that particularly makes it a file operation > > >> as opposed to an inode operation? > > >> > > > > > > In principle, is fsync() required to flush all dirty data written > > > through any file descriptor ever, or just dirty data written through > > > the file descriptor used for fsync()? > > > > > > -- Jamie > > > -- > > > > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/fsync.html > > > > Is a pointer to what seems to be the official posix spec for this - it > > is definitely per file descriptor, not per file system, etc... > > > > Maybe I'm reading Jamie's question wrong, but I think he's saying: > > /* open exactly the same file twice */ > fd = open("file"); > fd2 = open("file"); > > write(fd, "stuff") > write(fd2, "more stuff") > fsync(fd); > > Does the fsync promise "more stuff" will be on disk? I think the answer > should be yes. I think so. And this is in the context of making ->fsync an inode operation and avoid the NFS NULL-file problem... I don't think there is any fd specific metadata that fsync has to deal with? Any other reasons it has to be a file operation? |
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