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Re: Questions for article

To: "Eric Sandeen" <sandeen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Questions for article
From: Thomas King <kingttx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:19:13 -0500 (CDT)
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> Thomas King wrote:
>
>> -Concerning the block-size limit, will this eventually be a thing of the 
>> past?
>> Mr. Newman's contention is massive filesystems should have much larger block
>> sizes, but he also contends that OSD is the eventual answer instead of using
>> block allocation.
>
> Just to reiterate what I already put on the ext4 list... :)
>
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/christoph/largeblocksize/4/patches/
> http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Large_Blocksize_Performance
>
> Not sure where those patches are headed.
>
> It's also not clear to me that this is really a critical feature for
> large filesystems; space allocation is not done block by block per se in
> xfs, as Mr. Newman seems (?) to imply (?)  The block granularity is
> there throughout the fs but I'm not sure how much it matters in
> practice.  Dave...?
>
> OSDs may have their place, we'll see.  It's pretty new stuff (unless you
> count Lustre, I guess, but I thought he didn't want to talk lustre...)
> I don't think this relates to a linux shortcoming in any way (or to
> xfs...), it's  awfully new stuff that just about nobody really has in
> production.
>
>> -Is there anything else y'all would like folks to understand about XFS and
>> massive implementations?
>
> I already pointed him at the xfs_repair paper, since he seems concerned
> about fsck (and pointed out that yes, xfs_repair really *DOES* check all
> filesystem data and does not simply replay the log...)
>
> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2008/slides/135-fixing_xfs_faster.pdf
>
> Maybe some of the folks on the list with said massive implementations
> can speak up too.  :)
>
> -Eric
>
Both you and Andreas gave me some excellent information on both lists, and thank
you all for your patience. I appreciate everyone piping in. Like you say, if
there is anyone with massive implementations that wishes to add, please do so.

Thanks!
Tom King


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