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Re: Is this a expected behavior

To: larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is this a expected behavior
From: Michael Sinz <msinz@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 07:15:49 -0400
Cc: linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Kostadin Karaivanov wrote:
The system :
        root@larry:/usr/src# cat linux/fs/xfs/linux/xfs_version.h | grep \#
        #ifndef __XFS_VERSION_H__
        #define __XFS_VERSION_H__
        #define XFS_VERSION_STRING "CVS-10/09/02:05"
        #endif /* __XFS_VERSION_H__ */

/ is on XFS partittion

The problem (?): I have /usr/src directory like that
        root@larry:/usr/src# ls -al
        total 5752
        drwxr-xr-x    8 root     root         4096 ???  9 12:55 ./
        drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 ??? 30 05:54 ../
        drwxr-xr-x    8 79       304          4096 ???  9 12:18 
freeswan-2.00pre2/
        -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1707055 ??? 19 23:05
freeswan-2.00pre2.k2.0.patch
        -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1707113 ??? 19 23:05
freeswan-2.00pre2.k2.2.patch
        -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1706937 ??? 19 23:05
freeswan-2.00pre2.k2.4.patch
        lrwxr-xr-x    1 root     root           19 ???  9 12:22 linux ->
linux-2.4-xfs/linux/
        drwxr-xr-x   17 root     root         4096 ??? 24 12:50
linux09152002+crypt/
        drwxr-xr-x    5 root     root           38 ???  5 14:07 linux-2.4-xfs/
        -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        29859 ??? 30 16:49
loop-jari-2.4.18.0.patch
        -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       678738 ???  9 07:38 
patch-int-2.4.19.1
        drwxr-xr-x    2 root     bin         20480 ??? 27 00:12 qmail-1.03/
        drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root           67 ??? 24  2002 rpm/
        drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root           83 ??? 22 19:33 test/

when I make
        root@larry:/usr/src# cd linux
        root@larry:/usr/src/linux# ls ../
        cmd/  CVS/  linux/
I get the content of /usr/src/linux-2.4-xfs/ - although I have no memories
about the behavior of privios kernels, I expect to get content of /usr/src
itself
cause when I make cd ../ I go to /usr/src..... is this expected ???

This is expected - the CWD is what the command (ls) runs in and
the ".." points to the directory above.

Some shells have, either as an option or default behavior, the
feature that the "cd" command (which runs within the shell)
interprets the string based on what path the shell thinks you
went down.

For example, in my system I have:

farmer:/home/mks> ls -l linux
lrwxrwxr-x    1   22 Mar  5  2002 linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.4-xfs/

so if I cd to linux, I get:

farmer:/home/mks> cd linux
farmer:/home/mks/linux> pwd
/usr/src/linux-2.4-xfs

The shell itself does the CD command and if I "cd .." I get:

farmer:/home/mks/linux> cd ..
farmer:/home/mks>

However, that is only because the shell has its own concept of the
current directory (as seen in the prompt) vs the actual/physical
current directory (as seen by pwd)

Unless the shell replaces the string "../" with something else,
any external command (ls, cp, etc) will see that string within
the context of the actual directory.

This has, as far as I know, always been the case in Linux, Unix, etc.
(Albeit, not all shells support the special handling and will end
up just using the actual directory rather than the "logical" one.)

--
Michael Sinz -- Director, Systems Engineering -- Worldgate Communications
A master's secrets are only as good as
        the master's ability to explain them to others.


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