Greg,
Using a browser and not YAST I can see the "changes" text file. YAST shows
that I have source installed however I'm going to force installation of the
kernel source per your recommendation.
Thank You,
Anthony
> Anthony,
>
> I am not an expert on Linux kernels, and I'm sure there are people on this
> list that will disagree with the below, but my thoughts are:
>
> It depends on what you are trying to do.
>
> If you are a kernel developer, or you want to be on the bleeding edge of
> kernel capabilities, then you need a kernel from kernel.org or one of the
> other kernel maintainers.
>
> For production I like to use distribution kernels.or patched distribution
> kernels. i.e. From Redhat, SuSE, Mandrake, etc.
>
> My logic for this is that if the kernel turns out to have a bug, it is
> likely that distribution maintainer will correct the kernel and send out
> the fix.
>
> i.e. Redhat supported the 2.4.9 kernel for 8 months or so, and may still be
> releasing patches for it.
>
> If you are using a kernel.org kernel, and you get a rev. level behind,
> nobody is going to support you.
>
> i.e. If you have 2.4.17 kernel today, and a kernel bug pops up that you
> care about, there is nobody that is going to creating patches against that
> "old" of a kernel. As I understand it, the kernel developers never fix a
> released kernel. If something is broke, they fix it in the next release.
> Unfortunately, something else will likely be broken in the next release.
>
> If you want a "maintained" kernel, you have to get it from a distribution
> provider.
>
> Another issue, is that if you upgrade your kernel and you don't get all the
> associated pieces, you can break some applications.
>
> i.e. Some of the xfs user-land tools for kernels prior to 2.4.18 don't work
> with the 2.4.18 kernel. I imagine that there are many of these kernel
> dependencies spread around a typical distribution, and you risk breaking
> things if you upgrade the kernel lock, stock, and barrel.
>
> Greg Freemyer
> Internet Engineer
> Deployment and Integration Specialist
> Compaq ASE - Tru64
> Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect
> The Norcross Group
> www.NorcrossGroup.com
>
> >> Greg,
> >> Are there any advantages to me using the Mantel/SuSE kernel over the
> >> latest
> >> sources from sgi?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Anthon
> >>
> >> > Anthony,
> >> >
> >> > The notes at
> >>
> >>
> >> ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/suse/people/mante
> >>l/ ne
> >>
> >> >xt/kernel-source.changes give you some of what you are asking about.
> >> >
> >> > Per the above, it is based on the 2.4.19-pre8aa1 kernel. I believe
> >> > that already has the XFS patches in it, so you could look into what
> >> > it has.
> >> >
> >> > For details, I guess you need to download the source RPM and read
> >> > the specfile.
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> > >> > Since you are using a SuSE distribution, have you thought
> >> > >> > about using
> >> > >>
> >> > >> the
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > SuSE experimental kernel from
> >> > >> > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/RPM/
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It has all the standard SuSE patches and includes a
> >> > >> > relatively recent
> >> > >>
> >> > >> XFS.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Possibly XFS v1.1, but I'm not sure.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have the Mantel's latest kernel installed on my laptop
> >> > >> however
> >>
> >> I'm
> >>
> >> > >> not certain what it is that I have. What I mean by that is how
> >> > >> do I find out what XFS version and patch level do I have so that
> >> > >> I can decide on patch upgrades? I know it says kernel 2.4.18
> >> > >> however is
> >>
> >> it
> >>
> >> > >> really 2.4.19 pre... .
> >> > >> As you can see, I'm not certain of the versions and patch
> >> > >> levels contained
> >> > >>
> >> > >> within the Mantel stuff.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Anthony
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > FYI: The stock SuSE 8.0 kernel also has XFS support, but the
> >> > >> > ACL
> >> > >>
> >> > >> handling
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > is broken in such a way that xfsdump/xfsrestore don't handle
> >> > >> > ACLs correctly.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Greg Freemyer
> >> > >> > Internet Engineer
> >> > >> > Deployment and Integration Specialist
> >> > >> > Compaq ASE - Tru64
> >> > >> > Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect
> >> > >> > The Norcross Group
> >> > >> > www.NorcrossGroup.com
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> Steve,
> >> > >> > >> What do you recommend that I use since the box I'm
> >> > >> > >> building
> >>
> >> is
> >>
> >> > >> > >> a development
> >> > >> > >> box for myself which I will be using for development
> >>
> >> purposes
> >>
> >> > >> > >> and
> >> > >>
> >> > >> thus
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> will
> >> > >> > >> be using other cvs sources from other opesource projects
> >> > >> > >> as well?
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Anthony
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 13:26, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
> >> > >> > >> > > I'm building/setting-up a new server SuSE 7.3 which
> >> > >> > >> > > will
> >> > >>
> >> > >> include
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > > 3ware (7810) ide raid (10 or 5) with brand new
> >> > >> > >> > > drives
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > > most likely LVM
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> too.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > > Should I get the kernel from oss.sgi.com cvs
> >> > >> > >> > > (CVSROOT=":pserver:cvs@xxxxxxxxxxx:/cvs"
> >> > >> > >> > > linux-2.4-xfs)
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > > is there another location/process that I should
> >>
> >> entertain?
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > > Also
> >> > >>
> >> > >> what
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > > kernel release does the oss.sgi.com cvs sources give
> >> > >> > >> > > me?
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> > > Thank You,
> >> > >> > >> > > Anthony
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > Right now it gives you 2.4.19-pre9 with xfs and kdb
> >> > >> > >> > (which you probably do not care about). There are
> >> > >> > >> > fixes in this
> >>
> >> tree
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > which
> >> > >>
> >> > >> are
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > not available anywhere else, it is the most direct
> >> > >> > >> > link to XFS development. Of course this also possibly
> >> > >> > >> > means there
> >>
> >> are
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > bugs in this tree which are not available anywhere
> >> > >> > >> > else.
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> > Greg Freemyer
> >> > Internet Engineer
> >> > Deployment and Integration Specialist
> >> > Compaq ASE - Tru64
> >> > Compaq Master ASE - SAN Architect
> >> > The Norcross Group
> >> > www.NorcrossGroup.com
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