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re[2]: XFS installer and driver/update disks

To: Simon Matter <simon.matter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re[2]: XFS installer and driver/update disks
From: Greg Freemyer <freemyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:34:00 -0400
Cc: <linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: The NorcrossGroup
Sender: owner-linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
 
 >>  The real problem is that RedHat does not include XFS in their kernel.
 >>  They ship it with 1001 patches applied but no XFS. It's a real pain. I
 >>  have then tried Skipjack-beta1 in the hope, they included XFS. Nothing.
 >>  I decided to call this a bug and posted it on bugzilla.

 >>  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=62072

 >>  I'm asking list members not to flame on bugzilla. I guess it won't help.

 >>  -Simon

I just posted the below comment to Simon's report, and got the below surprising 
reply.

If the reply is in error, I suggest someone with a better knowledge of this 
than I should post a follow on comment.

=========
The reply was:

==
sorry but 2.4 doesn't have the ACL interface yet and in 2.5 it's still somewhat
immature (eg not set in stone)
==

My comment was:

===
>From what I understand the ACL kernel API was standardized in the 2.4.18 
>kernel.  

The team at http://acl.bestbits.at/ that support ext2/ext3 patches for ACLs and
the XFS support team have merged their user tools for working with ACLs.

The JFS team has stated that adding ACL support is a top priority now that there
is a standard API in the kernel.  I imagine they too will use the above userland
tools.

End-user code such as Samba 2.2.3a support this interface.

In other words, I would say the ACLs in Linux have gone from experimental to
standardized.

As a user, I want to use this new standard Linux feature.

I would like to see official Redhat support of ACLs.  I don't really care if it 
is:

   XFS
   ext2/ext3 with the http://acl.bestbits.at/ extensions
   A possible future JFS.

One nice thing about XFS is that it does come with xfsdump and xfsrestore.  

For the acl.bestbits solution, there is enhanced version of tar: star.
===



Greg Freemyer
Internet Engineer
Deployment and Integration Specialist
The Norcross Group
www.NorcrossGroup.com



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