Seth Mos wrote:
> At 05:18 13-6-2001 -0400, Jeffrey B. Layton wrote:
>
> >Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Solaris use a Veritas
> >filesystem as the default filesystem (I know HP does).
> >If that is the case, then getting rid of royalities to Veritas
> >but still charging the same per license would increase
> >their profits. Sure sounds like motivation to me :)
> >
> >Jeff
>
> True, they will sell you an a Veritas Journaling FS if you pay deerly for it.
> You must pay seperately for their volume manager and it is also tied to the
> size of your storage. BUt i'm not sure about that.
Ah... That's also true with HP. We had to pay a large amount to get
on-line FS resizing (since it's a Veritas product). With HPUX 11.0,
LVM was a HP product (I think) that came with the OS. I've just
read that with 11i, LVM is now the Veritas LVM. I don't have any
experience with the Veritas LVM, but I rather like the HP LVM
(and the Linux LVM!).
I've seen freevxfs.o but haven't tried it yet.
I would think that for companies like HP and Sun that have very large
pools of talented programmers, writing their own FS over a period
of a couple of years would yield better $ than licensing software from
Veritas. In my experience, Veritas has to be one of the most expensive
companies to deal with and their tech support is not good at all.
Anyway, just my opinion. Sorry for wasting space.
Jeff
>
>
> The Filesystem is called VxFS, there is now also a freevxfs.o for the linux
> kernel but this is read only and does not support all on-disk formats of
> the fs. It seems like the on-disk format is different between variants of
> their FS.
>
> >"Nathan J. Mehl" wrote:
> >
> > > [a late response, my apologies]
> > >
> > > In the immortal words of Russell Cattelan (cattelan@xxxxxxxxxxx):
> > > >
> > > > It wasn't an issue of gain or not gain for SGI but a sense of what
> > > > could
> > > > be lost:
> > > > XFS on solaris seems to be the biggest fear.
> > >
> > > Is it?
> > >
> > > Sun is already shipping a number of GPLed utlities with Solaris 8.
> > > (Most notably and blessedly, /bin/bash.) There's even source code
> > > included, buried deeply back on installation CD #8934... I rather
> > > expect that if Sun thought they could gain some sort of competetive
> > > advantage from shipping Solaris 9 with XFS, they'd simply go ahead and
> > > do so with the existing GPL code.
> > >
> > > However, I can't see it happening. Sun has a strong financial
> > > disincentive against such a move: they currently make money off of
> > > selling "server" editions of Solaris (which bundle Solstice Disksuite)
> > > and rebadged copies of VXFS/VXVM for Solaris. Why ship for free what
> > > they currently make in the neighborhood of $5k/seat for? :)
> > >
> > > -n
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------<memory@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > no plans / I'll go where the machine goes / the past is a placebo /
> > dissolving
> > > in a drain / I'll sleep beside the railroad tracks / with no more rent
> > > or income tax / I got no fixed address now / I'm waiting for a train.
> > > (--Firewater, "So Long
> > Superman")
> > >
> > <http://blank.org/memory/>----------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Seth
> Every program has two purposes one for which
> it was written and another for which it wasn't
> I use the last kind.
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