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RE: Stability of the Red Hat 7.1 + XFS system

To: "Juha Saarinen" <juha@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Bryan J. Smith'" <b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Stability of the Red Hat 7.1 + XFS system
From: "Juan Casero" <casero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:00:25 -0400
Cc: "'Micah Yoder'" <yodermk@xxxxxxxx>, <linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Normally I don't bother with these kinds of pointless debates
but this one touches a cord in me.  I have two deskop workstations
here (both using MS Windows 2k cuz I need the advanced 3D graphics)
using the 440BX chipset.  In my experience this is one of the most
stable chipsets I have ever come across.  My primary workstation is
a Tyan Tiger 100 with the i440BX chipset and two Pentium III 500Mhz
processors and 1 Gigabyte of ECC PC100 SDRAM from Crucial.  What these
boards lack in performance they make up for with rock solid stability.
What good is the fastest computer on the market if it can't stay up
long enough to get any useful work done?  I also have a Tyan trinity
(1590S) board with an AMD K6 that uses the VIA MVP3 chip set.  This board
has been plagued by problems and instability under microsoft's OS's. I
think the problem is with the AGP port.  I was finally able to get some
use out if by installing linux on it with no graphics-strictly a server-and
using it as a firewall/gateway.  For this reason I flat out refuse to buy
any system that uses a motherboard with any VIA chipset.  My machines have
to stay up for weeks and months at a time.  Anticipating a long wait before
the Itanium systems could become affordable I decided to deck out my current
system and so bought the extra RAM and a nice 3D graphics card from 3D Labs
with full OpenGL hardware acceleration.  Hopefull I won't have to wait too
long before I can afford the kind of technology presently used with Itaniuum
workstations.

juan.
casero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Juha Saarinen
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:31 PM
To: 'Bryan J. Smith'
Cc: 'Micah Yoder'; linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Stability of the Red Hat 7.1 + XFS system


:: Depends on the revision of the Tiger 133.  Tyan is like the
:: Microsoft of the mainboard world.  You gotta wait for revision C or
:: D before it's good.  Late revisions of the Tiger 133 are quite
:: stable.  But early revisions?  Watch out!

Yeah, I managed to avoid that trap... got a revision F motherboard here.

:: I personally cannot stand people who say "this company sucks, or
:: that company sucks."  It all comes down to specific parts and
:: models.  E.g., the ViA 686A (Ultra66) southbridge has compatibility
:: and performance problems galore, but the newer ViA 686B (Ultra100)
:: bests the ICH2 (Ultra100) southbridge in most people's eyes (and has
:: a higher handwidth channel to the northbridge too).

I've got the Apollo Pro 133A set with the VT82c596B South Bridge. I can
honestly say that it doesn't work as well as an Intel 440BX solution.

-- Juha



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