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Re: Installation of xfs in RH 7.1 Yes, share them with RedHat!

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Subject: Re: Installation of xfs in RH 7.1 Yes, share them with RedHat!
From: Stewart Samuels <ssamuels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:34:33 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: sandeen@xxxxxxx, ssamuels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Bryan, Eric,

Although I agree with much of what Bryan refers to here, I certainly
do not want to see "hacked" support for filesystems.  I am a big fan
of Linux and use it both at home and on large clusters at work. I
can ill afford to have problems at the file system level.

XFS has proved to me to be fairly reliable for the things I require.
I had the opportunity to sit in on the JFS discussions at the Linux
World Conference in NY in January.  IMHO it is far from ready for
a production system.  XFS is much further along.  Plus, since we
run a lot of large SGI Origin 2000 and 3000 series machines, XFS
allows us the possibility to swap disks between Linux and Irix
if we should need it.  I am not too familiar with ReiserFS, but I
have read some of the white papers on it.

Rather than having a bunch of RPMs, I think if we are going to organize
or petition RH and others to include such things, we should make it
clear as to how we would like to approach installation.  A user/admin
should be able to select XFS as an install option from Anaconda as
easily as one does Ext2 today.

Eric, is SGI prepared to provide this type of installation ability
to RH (and others) at this point in time?  If so, why do you think
RH has not provided this yet?  Is it political, marketing, or technical?


                                Stewart


> 
> Re: Installation of xfs in RH 7.1  Yes, share them with RedHat!
> 
> Eric Sandeen wrote:
> > I think the above sounds good to me.
> > Feel free to share your views with Red Hat as well.  :)
> 
> Yes, yes!  We need to be sharing these views with RedHat.  SGI makes
> one heck of an Anaconda mod.  It is right there for the taking by
> RedHat.
> 
> Someone else informed me that although RedHat includes all the
> ReiserFS support in 7.1, it is NOT integrated into Anaconda.  So it
> looks like RedHat is still not shipping a JFS.  Plus the kernels
> does NOT have the ReiserFS kNFSd hacks applied.
> 
> That means people like us should be lobbying RedHat to include XFS
> -- even it if is just a bunch of kernel and support RPMs on the
> Rawhide CD.  I know RedHat and VALinux are pro-Ext3, but Ext3 is a
> "stop gap" JFS IMHO, still not ported to 2.4 yet (2.2-only right
> now).  Now Ext3 is a solid JFS in full-data journaling (aka "v1"
> mode), but not the future of Linux.  XFS is much faster than Ext3
> and has the history, capabilities and features only Ext3 and
> ReiserFS can dream of right now (Side Note: I am not familiar with
> IBM's JFS).
> 
> If anyone is interested in getting a petition going to get RedHat to
> open up to XFS, I'd be interested.
> 
> -- TheBS
> 
> --
> Bryan "TheBS" Smith          chat:thebs413 @AOL/MSN/Yahoo
> Engineer      mailto:b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx,thebs@xxxxxxxxxxx
> *********************************************************
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>                                     -- Nicholas C. Weaver
> 


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                                            Stewart

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