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Re: [pcp] pmmgr pmlogger default behaviour

To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [pcp] pmmgr pmlogger default behaviour
From: Nathan Scott <nathans@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:10:08 -0500 (EST)
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Thread-topic: pmmgr pmlogger default behaviour

----- Original Message -----
> Hi -
> 
> > [...] I think the archive (especially with rsync) considerations
> > favour only updating/creating files for today's data each day. [...]
> 
> By the way, as we don't provide any off-machine archiving facilities
> such as rsync, the default for archive collection need not be a

Hmm, not sure what you mean there? - rsync works fine, and people
use it for off-machine archiving all the time.  Its not something
we need or should be providing, it just works.  And it works as a
result of us not continually changing the historical archives.

> perfect match for that scenario.  We don't need to especially cater to
> such elaborate configurations *in our defaults*.

"elaborate" is not a word I'd have chosen here - and "our defaults"
need to cater for as many people as possible, with a focus on the
needs of production systems.  People need some kind of strategy
for storing data long-term - we don't tackle this side of things,
because it needs local knowledge (i.e. a system with very large
amounts of storage and associated issues - its often going to be
part of some backup or off-line access strategy for other data
that people have).  In deployments I've been involved in, its not
ever been done on the production monitored machine(s) - where PCP
is running/logging - cos the storage requirements are not fixed
(as they are for pmmgr and pmlogger_daily - compressing/culling
after a certain time, sampling at fixed rates, and so on).

rsync works really well - I know of a number of production systems
using this model for long-term storage.  Our default mechanism has
to work well with that class of use.

cheers.

--
Nathan

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