On May 15, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Nathan Scott wrote:
----- "Michael Werner" <mtw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I had a look at pcp on deb's popularity site. The numbers
are dismal - couldn't fill a bus.
Heh. Its trending upwards though, and if you look at other
packages (e.g. collectd, as a vaguely similar example), it
can take a couple of years to get into the hundreds. A few
more hits on kmchart than pcp-gui - I should look into how
to get that removed.
Shouldn't every IT shop be using this ???
Do the PCP docs get distributed with Suse and Deb?
The man pages do, but thats about it.
That would be an interesting statistic; how many downloads
go back and get the bigger docs?
Or are there simply pointers back to techpubs?
So regarding PCP in distros ...
Debian is up-to-date
Suse needs a refresh
Fedora and Rhel need to eat their veggies.
Now that Marks at Redhat, hopefully we'll see that situation
rectified sooner rather than later. The main issue there is
the need to split the current pcp rpm into separate library
runtime, devel, and main pcp package.
Nice. Has there been any talk of a client / server split? This
would ease some desktop support concerns.
Ubuntu is ok? or needs?
Its behind, but not much can be done there other than keeping
Debian uptodate, AFAIK. I would love to be able to push that
along a bit faster, we have quite a few Ubuntu people here who
are stuck lagging behind where the debian packages are (oh the
irony!)
Is there some particular reason pcp has never been in
rhel/centos? It seems an odd omission.
Lack of someone to push it, I guess, and people being used to
using other things (like sar, cacti, collectd, ganglia, etc)
for some of what PCP does, perhaps? Theres a fair bit of
code in PCP, and packaging it well is not so simple. The GUI
tool aspect has also been lacking in the past, but nowadays
thats not in such bad shape & getting better.
Ken's done a nice bit of work. It will help a lot.
cheers.
--
Nathan
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