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Re: PCP SourceForge [was Re: Java JNI PMAPI]

To: Ken McDonell <kenj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: PCP SourceForge [was Re: Java JNI PMAPI]
From: Michael Werner <mtw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:06:05 -0800 (PST)
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Ken McDonell wrote:

On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 15:04 -0800, Michael Werner wrote:
Hi Ken, Mark, et al.,

I'm open to being gatekeeper for the SourceForge projet. In fact,
not long ago, I created a SourceForge project for distributing
PCP packages for various OSs (along with some other distributed
computing tools). The first file release will happen in about a
week, after I get the website polished up.

I appreciate your volunteering, my only concern is that the project
title is so broad that anyone looking for "PCP" or "Performance
Co-Pilot" or "performance monitoring tools" is unlikely to find the sf
project.

Things like pcpmon, pcpviewer (http://pcpview.sourceforge.net/) and
(soon) kmchart probably need to be either independent source forge
projects that share enough common keywords that they'll all be found, or
we need an umbrella project for PCP add-ons that points to all of the
know pieces outside oss.sgi.com.

I agree with your point. The sourceforge search paradigm is somewhat
limited, and we must arrange for a suitable solution or workaround.
There are couple of open feature requests for adding search keywords
to sf projects. At a more fundamental level, they do not have a way
to suitably handle umbrella projects that have several sub-projects.
I will be putting in a feature request regarding that issue. In the
mean time, I can load up the project description with keywords. You
are right in that we need to have a one-stop-shop for all things PCP,
which is easy for the masses to find.


I've finished off the MacOS port, including the production of an
installable package. Solaris packages will come shortly after the
the website is done. Aix and HP packages will come a bit later.

Are you feeding these changes back to Mark?  I'd hate for the core PCP
code to become forked.

All my source code mods will be available from sourceforge, along with
the bug reports and release notes.  It will be a simple matter for
Mark to diff the revision tags and get the mods.  I've been careful to
ensure that my changes are compatible with SGI's internal build reqs.

Also, I've recently spoken to Michal Kara, and he has granted me
stewardship of the pcpmon sources, which will be made available
from the sourceforge site. The port of pcpmon to the mac is
complete, and  will be included in the upcoming release.

Excellent, I was wondering where Michal had gone ... the copies of
pcpmon in the wild are quite old and I suspect a little feral.

Michal can be reached at lemming@xxxxxx

The pcpmon source situation is a bit messy.  All the 1.3.3 sources
that I was able to find are missing a few build-related files, e.g.
pcpmon.glade.  Michal had only a full copy of his 1.3.1+ sources.
The glade file from his 1.3.1 sources does not fully reflect the
1.3.3 UI. I'm expecting additional problems when I try porting to
other platforms.  My Mac OS pcpmon branch is a bit of hack job, and
it will take some fussing to get the changes back into the mainline,
but it's all we have that works.

If anyone has a complete set of Michal's 1.3.3 sources, please send
them to me.

The sourceforge project name is "Multi-system ToolWorks"
The sourceforge site is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/reliable
The project web site is: http://reliable.sourceforge.net

I'm currently working on a redesign of the project web site, to
be completed for the first file release. I was planning to announce
all this shortly, after it was ready for prime time, but the rest
of you have already begun the conversation - so here you have it.

Thanks for the info, let's keep the discussion going.


Sure thing. Cheers.

- mtw

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