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RE: ipw2100: firmware problem

To: abonilla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: ipw2100: firmware problem
From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:07:18 -0400
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On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 15:00 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> > > It thing of Mute in ALSA is stupid. If you want Sound, you
> > install the Sound
> > > and enable it. Why would it make you google for more things
> > to do? ALSA mute
> > > on install is WAY way, not OK.
> >
> > It took you 10 minutes of googling before you thought to try
> > the mixer?
> > Sorry dude, this is PEBKAC.
> >
> > Lee
> 
> Riiiight. It could be. Or it could be that no where in the world I have seen
> something where the device would be disabled by default without notifying
> the user. Why would you Mute the driver? Is the driver that bad, that the
> developers would rather Mute the sound card, just in case if the sound cards
> starts making noises and shit when the driver is loaded?
> 

Userspace should handle it, doing this in the kernel is bloat.

My Debian system initializes the mixer settings to a sane state just
fine when the alsasound init script is run.  Maybe you need a better
distro.

Users who compile ALSA from source are expected to know what they are
doing.  And, if you watch the "make install" output, it prints a big fat
warning that all mixer controls are muted by default.

> You are moving to another topic. Let's drop it.

Agreed, but it was your OT rant that changed the topic...

Lee


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