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send-to-self (was Re: routing bug report for 2.4)

To: Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: send-to-self (was Re: routing bug report for 2.4)
From: Julian Anastasov <ja@xxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:43:26 +0300 (EEST)
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In-reply-to: <3EFE131E.1080807@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Ben Greear wrote:

> My send-to-self patch that I have been using is attached.  I also have some 
> other
> patches for mac-vlans and packet-gen applied, but I don't believe these will 
> have any
> impact on the behaviour we have been discussing.

        Ben, lets define new behaviour for your feature:

1. we mark ethX with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ethX/loop=1. That means
this is a loop device (my site contains lot of device flags, you
can see what costs creating a sysctl var):
just hit some of the links, recommended example:

        there are 2 variants:

        - loop can be 0(no loop) / 1(loop inout) or

        - 0(no loop), 1(loop in only), 2(loop out only), 3(loop inout)

        where "loop in only" means "accept only" and "loop out only"
        is "send only" interface

        but as all traffics are inout I think "loop inout" will
be always used

2. arp_filter accepts traffic on ethX (as in your patch)
if "loop in" is allowed for indev and "loop out" for the
out_dev in routing result

3. rp_filter (source validation) accepts traffic on ethX (as in your
patch) if "loop in" is allowed

4. get unicast output route for local IPs ethY->ethX if "loop in" is
allowed for ethX and "loop out" is allowed for "ethY. ARP
will add cache entries for local IPs.

Goal 1. Can we just skip the BINDTODEVICE thing and to replace it
with bind to src IP. We can avoid binding to src IP for our
tests if we replace the preferred source IP in the desired local
routes but this is a hack. Using BINDTODEVICE will not add
any benefits but will be supported (it is ignored).

Then to define it in this way:

If ethX has "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ethX/loop" set to !0 then
all output routes "from local_ip_on_ethY to local_ip_on_ethX" will
not receive "lo" result but "ethY" with RTN_UNICAST type
if local_ip_on_ethY is configured on ethY (ethY has loop enabled too),
no matter the key->oif value. Sort of:

fib_lookup for "from IP1 to IP2 oif XXX"
        if dev_out is loop_in and key->src != 0
                src = key->src? : FIB_RES_PREFSRC(res);
                dev_in = ip_dev_find(src);
                if (dev_in is loop_out)
                        use dev_in as dev_out
                        goto make_route;
        // else
        use "lo"

- this code is slow but it is guarded from loop check for out_dev
so I do not see performance impact (the output routing to localhost
is not used often). The result is cached (you can set long
routing cache expiration value during the tests).

- we assume my patch from previous posting is applied
and we match any local IP no matter the key oif.

Goal 2. Can we skip all TCP/UDP changes?

- we rely on the fact the routing results allow traffic in
both directions (incoming is accepted with RTN_LOCAL, output
gets RTN_UNICAST). As for IPv6 I can not comment, we define
ipv4/conf/XXX/loop flag, though. But I prefer we to keep the
changes only at routing level. For TCP and UDP these talks
should look as if "lo" is used.

- what I'm not sure is whether any socket hash problems exists
and this is the only thing that can prevent this patch to look
nice and fast. But I'm wondering there are such issues as
the talks on "lo" should work but we have to check that.

        The usage:

- mark eth0 as loop_out and eth1 as loop_in device and start the test
in eth0->eth1 direction or use loop inout for both directions.

        If you think that we can change only the routing then
I can prepare patch for testing, I'm not sure I have a test setup
for this feature right now.


Julian Anastasov <ja@xxxxxx>

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