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Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19

To: Wietse Venema <wietse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19
From: jamal <hadi@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <kuznet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@xxxxxx>, <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <linux-net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sigh.
Which part dont you understand?

Youve been told about 1000 times already, but let me shout:

YOU CAN GET THE INFORAMTION YOU WANT IF YOU USE NETLINK.

Cheers,
jamal



On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote:

> Please stop that BSD versus Linux drivel. Either make a constructive
> contribution or be silent.
>
> I don't care what API is "superior", as long as it provides me with
> the information that I want.
>
>       Wietse
>
> jamal:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote:
> >
> > > Alan Cox:
> > > > > Soldiers are marching down the street. The mother of one of those
> > > > > soldiers is ever so proud.  All the other guys are marching out of
> > > > > step.  Her son is the only one who does it right.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what it looks like for a person who writes Internet software
> > > > > that aims to work on a wide variety of platforms.
> > > >
> > > > I think you have the metaphor wrong. The older API is a bit like the
> > > > cavalry charging into battle at the start of world war one. It may have 
> > > > been
> > > > how everyone did it but they guys with the "newfangled, really not how 
> > > > it
> > > > should be done, definitely not cricket"  machine guns got the last laugh
> > >
> > > Keep your superiority complex out of my mailbox, thank you.
> > >
> >
> > Wietse,
> >
> > netlink, as a few people have pointed to you is the 'proper' way to do
> > things. Sure, the BSDs did it the way you love it, but linux is a
> > different operating system (cut the "if its not Scottish its crap
> > mentality"). Netlink does improve on "the way its always been done for
> > the last 80 years". Infact netlink has already been approved to be (at
> > least informational) RFC. Look at a slightly dated draft at:
> > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-salim-netlink-jhshk-00.txt
> > Maybe you should preach to the BSDs about netlink?
> >
> > cheers,
> > jamal
> >
> > PS:- If you want help on writting netlink based code to achieve what you
> > are trying to do, just yell. Look at the source for the ip utility which
> > is within the iproute2 package.
> >
> >
>


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