From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Mon Oct 9 06:51:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:50:50 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:29196 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:50:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 7728 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2000 13:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 13:50:18 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D94AFB08 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id GAA02306 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:50:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:50:27 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: [rhino] Building rhino Message-ID: <20001009065027.E2059@suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing A surprise: Rhino seems to want fam.h to build out the FileBasedCategory object. Some resulting questions: Will rhino continue to use fam on linux instead of directly using notify locks? How terrible a thing would it be to build rhino without the FileBasedCategory? Rhino seems not to depend further on it. Do most other programs? My reasoning: I'm not very interested in using or deploying fam. -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Mon Oct 9 19:08:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:07:52 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:9068 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:07:24 -0700 Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA02623 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:13:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09730; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:05:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010091905.ZM9664@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:05:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joshua Rodman "[rhino] Building rhino" (Oct 9, 6:50am) References: <20001009065027.E2059@suse.com> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: jrodman@suse.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Building rhino Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing > A surprise: > Rhino seems to want fam.h to build out the FileBasedCategory object. > > Some resulting questions: > Will rhino continue to use fam on linux instead of directly using > notify locks? Yes, as long as people working on rhino don't know anything about notify locks. :) You have a pointer to more info? > How terrible a thing would it be to build rhino without the > FileBasedCategory? Rhino seems not to depend further on it. Do most > other programs? No, the only thing which uses it is the example category which is built by mkrhinoism. You should be able to comment it out of the build with no problems. (In addition to lib/Makefile, you'll have to remove it from build/rpm/rpm.spec if you're building RPM packages.) The other alternative is to install the fam header & library. If you're installing it from RPM, make sure you install --noscripts or whatever, because the install scripts want to add fam to your inetd.conf. --Rusty -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 10 03:57:44 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:57:25 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:29195 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:56:54 -0700 Received: (qmail 6837 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2000 10:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2000 10:56:04 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C82AFB08 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id DAA04395 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:56:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:56:13 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Building rhino Message-ID: <20001010035613.A4245@suse.com> References: <20001009065027.E2059@suse.com> <10010091905.ZM9664@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <10010091905.ZM9664@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com>; from rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:05:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing * Rusty Ballinger (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) [001009 19:09]: > > A surprise: > > Rhino seems to want fam.h to build out the FileBasedCategory object. > > > > Some resulting questions: > > Will rhino continue to use fam on linux instead of directly using > > notify locks? > > Yes, as long as people working on rhino don't know anything about notify > locks. :) You have a pointer to more info? I went looking.. It's a 2.4 thing and rather new, and I can't find docs, and.. I think you probably already know more about this than I do, reading your prior participation in Directory notification threads. I think I missed the point of fam, in that it is supposed to work even with remote filesystems where NFS (and similar) cannot be forced to respect leases, AFAIK. Anyway, I was referring to the FL_LEASE lock type which went in with 2.4.0-test9-pre7 which should allow file watching to occur without the imon patch. I feel though, that it should be possible to cause fam calls to fall through to direct watches on the local system via lease locks in the case where the files are not network-provided. Helper daemons for filesystem operations aren't something I want more of... I'm a newbie on this topic though. > > How terrible a thing would it be to build rhino without the > > FileBasedCategory? Rhino seems not to depend further on it. Do most > > other programs? > > No, the only thing which uses it is the example category which is built by > mkrhinoism. You should be able to comment it out of the build with no > problems. (In addition to lib/Makefile, you'll have to remove it from > build/rpm/rpm.spec if you're building RPM packages.) Yes, this is the approach I'm taking. Ideally I think it should be possible to say ./configure --no-fam . Perhaps I should be the one to implement this after I learn automake and friends. > The other alternative is to install the fam header & library. If you're > installing it from RPM, make sure you install --noscripts or whatever, > because the install scripts want to add fam to your inetd.conf. This is okay, the build system constructs a temporary distribution and then throws it away, so any collateral damage is not important. However, as I'm not planning on making a fam package right now, or requireing it for failsafe which in turn doesn't use it, I'm not so interested in taking this path. > --Rusty -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 10 06:55:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:55:16 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:58897 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:54:47 -0700 Received: (qmail 7849 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2000 13:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2000 13:53:57 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA0BAFB08 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id GAA04757 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:54:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:54:05 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Message-ID: <20001010065405.F4245@suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing After ripping bits and pieces out of rhino to make the fam dependency go away, I tried building it.. no luck. Okay, so I stepped back, read README and .maint, installed on a SuSE6.4 system as described, and tried building 1.3.6 without any changes: jrodman@Athenae:~/storage/rhino/sysadm_base-1.3.6 >aclocal aclocal: configure.in: 149: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library Hints? I'll have been digging into auto* by the time you read this.. Hopefully if I'm being _totally_ braindead I'll know to expect the appropriate lashing. -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 10 08:38:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:38:26 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:43535 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:37:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 15053 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2000 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2000 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF3AFB08 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id IAA11847 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:37:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:37:01 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Message-ID: <20001010083701.G4245@suse.com> References: <20001010065405.F4245@suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001010065405.F4245@suse.com>; from jrodman@suse.com on Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:54:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing * Joshua Rodman (jrodman@suse.com) [001010 13:56]: > jrodman@Athenae:~/storage/rhino/sysadm_base-1.3.6 >aclocal > aclocal: configure.in: 149: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library Okay, it seems AM_PROG_LIBTOOL changed to AC_PROG_LIBTOOL in some point along the history of automake/conf. -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 10 13:13:15 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:13:06 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:793 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:12:36 -0700 Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA06322 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11147; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010101310.ZM11080@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:10:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joshua Rodman "Re: [rhino] Building rhino" (Oct 10, 3:56am) References: <20001009065027.E2059@suse.com> <10010091905.ZM9664@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> <20001010035613.A4245@suse.com> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: jrodman@suse.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Building rhino Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing > Anyway, I was referring to the FL_LEASE lock type which went in with > 2.4.0-test9-pre7 which should allow file watching to occur without the > imon patch. I didn't know that went in. Looks like I've got some catching up to do :) > I feel though, that it should be possible to cause fam calls to fall > through to direct watches on the local system via lease locks in the case > where the files are not network-provided. Sure, under the covers, the fam API should use whatever mechanism is available. > Yes, this is the approach I'm taking. Ideally I think it should be > possible to say ./configure --no-fam . Perhaps I should be the one to > implement this after I learn automake and friends. I think the AC_ARG_WITH macro (or possibly the AC_ARG_ENABLE macro) is what you want; there's a not-particularly-good example of it at the top of rhino's configure.in, and in its sysadm_base.m4. Based on the value you get from the command line, I think you'll need to AC_DEFINE some variable like HAVE_FAM (you'll need to add that to acconfig.h, too) and then actually use it wherever fam is being used. I know that once a Makefile has been generated, it will detect some changes to configure.in etc., but I think you're better off running autoconf && automake && rm config.cache && ./configure --whatever yourself after modifying configure.in, and running autoheader etc. after modifying acconfig.h. (Also if you want to see what arguments you last ran the configure script with, head config.status.) --Rusty -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 10 13:19:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:19:15 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:44314 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:18:55 -0700 Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA07146 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:10:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11117; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:16:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010101316.ZM11114@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:16:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joshua Rodman "Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question" (Oct 10, 8:37am) References: <20001010065405.F4245@suse.com> <20001010083701.G4245@suse.com> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: jrodman@suse.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing On Oct 10, 8:37am, Joshua Rodman wrote: > Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question > * Joshua Rodman (jrodman@suse.com) [001010 13:56]: > > jrodman@Athenae:~/storage/rhino/sysadm_base-1.3.6 >aclocal > > aclocal: configure.in: 149: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library > > Okay, it seems AM_PROG_LIBTOOL changed to AC_PROG_LIBTOOL in some point > along the history of automake/conf. What point, do you know? I think AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is provided by libtool (/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4, maybe somewhere else on your system), but AM_PROG_LIBTOOL is an automake macro. What version of automake are you using? (And you do have libtool installed, right? I assume you must if you have AC_PROG_LIBTOOL.) --Rusty -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Wed Oct 11 19:10:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:10:41 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:22028 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:10:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 6488 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 02:09:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 02:09:29 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B3FAFB08 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id TAA11978 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:09:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:09:37 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Message-ID: <20001011190937.B11925@suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing * Rusty Ballinger (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) [001010 20:20]: > On Oct 10, 8:37am, Joshua Rodman wrote: > > Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question > > * Joshua Rodman (jrodman@suse.com) [001010 13:56]: > > > jrodman@Athenae:~/storage/rhino/sysadm_base-1.3.6 >aclocal > > > aclocal: configure.in: 149: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library > > > > Okay, it seems AM_PROG_LIBTOOL changed to AC_PROG_LIBTOOL in some point > > along the history of automake/conf. > > What point, do you know? I think AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is provided by libtool > (/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4, maybe somewhere else on your system), but > AM_PROG_LIBTOOL is an automake macro. What version of automake are you > using? (And you do have libtool installed, right? I assume you must if > you have AC_PROG_LIBTOOL.) Looking inside my copy of automake (argh perl..) it seems that this macros is somehow handled. However, as above, it's aclocal which dies, and does not know how to handle it. So many things are possible at my current rudementary understanding of these tools.. including 1) my aclocal is broken 2) the README.maint in the rhino dist is in error suggesting to run aclocal first 3) I'm missing something in my automake configuration 4) the configure.in shoudl be using AC_PROG_LIBTOOL .. lots of other possibilities exist. I'm a bit frustrated that, out of the can, the source distribution tries to run autoheader from a ./configure; make. I can't believe this is desirable. Is there a fix which is trivial for you here? I feel that a delievered tarball should not require, nor try, to use any of the suite of autotools unless the consumer does something especially to request their activation. -josh -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Wed Oct 11 20:01:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:01:12 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:775 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:00:44 -0700 Received: (qmail 11221 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 02:59:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 02:59:29 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EC8AFB08 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id TAA12050 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:59:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:59:38 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Message-ID: <20001011195938.C11925@suse.com> References: <20001010065405.F4245@suse.com> <20001010083701.G4245@suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001010083701.G4245@suse.com>; from jrodman@suse.com on Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 08:37:01AM -0700 Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My other question regarding README.maint is coming clearer now.. jrodman@D88:~/local/rhino/sysadm_base >autoheader /usr/bin/autoheader: Symbol `ENABLE_NLS' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h I didn't initially know where to point the finger here, but after looking through a number of distributions, it seems that this is indeed not present in most acconfig.h files. At least some are defined in the ./example/acconfig.h file, but the generated makefile seems to have no provision for referring to this file A workaround is to touch the include/sysadm/stamp-h file in my spec file.. but this is a hack. It seems maybe you forgot to include the acconfig.h in the distribution? Something like the attachment.. -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="acconfig.h" #undef ENABLE_NLS #undef HAVE_BOOL #undef HAVE_CATGETS #undef HAVE_GETTEXT #undef HAVE_LC_MESSAGES #undef HAVE_NAMESPACE #undef HAVE_SGINAP #undef HAVE_STPCPY #undef HAVE_XPASSWD /* #undef HAVE__GETPWENT_NO_SHADOW */ /* #undef HAVE__GETPWENT_NO_YP */ --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Wed Oct 11 22:07:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:07:03 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:15948 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:06:32 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA03825 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:58:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA09713 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13174; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:02:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010112202.ZM13254@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:02:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joshua Rodman "Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question" (Oct 11, 7:09pm) References: <20001011190937.B11925@suse.com> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: jrodman@suse.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.110010112202.ZM13254.engr.sgi.com" Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing -- --PART-BOUNDARY=.110010112202.ZM13254.engr.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Looking inside my copy of automake (argh perl..) Oh man. How I wish autoconf used perl. I'd rather read perl than m4. In fact I'd rather read perl and eat a box of thumbtacks than read m4. > I'm a bit frustrated that, out of the can, the source distribution tries > to run autoheader from a ./configure; make. I can't believe this is > desirable. Is there a fix which is trivial for you here? > > I feel that a delievered tarball should not require, nor try, to use any > of the suite of autotools unless the consumer does something especially to > request their activation. I agree with you, and I believe the authors of those tools agree with you as well, as it works correctly (i.e. the way you describe) on my system. I think there are two unrelated problems here. One is aclocal failing, but I'll come back to that below. The other problem is that, since you're using the source tarball generated by automake, you've already got Makefile.in's, and the instructions in README.maint don't apply to you; instead try the "configure/make/make install" instructions in the INSTALL file. That shouldn't run aclocal, autoheader, automake, or autoconf; it should just run the configure script and then build stuff. (Let me know if that's not the case.) (As you point out, part of the problem with following the README.maint instructions is that autoheader fails because acconfig.h isn't included in the source tarball. I don't know why automake doesn't include it by default; I've just added it to the list of files to include so it will be in future tarballs, and have attached a copy to this message. If you still want to go the aclocal/autoheader/automake/etc. route, put this file at the top of the sysadm_base tree.) Incidentally, the reason it doesn't fail for other people following the instructions in the README.maint file is that they're building in a source tree which was checked out from a repository which includes acconfig.h. Which reminds me, I still haven't set up a rhino CVS tree on oss.sgi.com yet...) As far as aclocal choking on AM_PROG_LIBTOOL, that shouldn't happen. I assume you're running SuSE? :) I built this on SuSE 6.4 boxes not too long ago; what versions of autoconf, automake, and libtool do you have? --Rusty --PART-BOUNDARY=.110010112202.ZM13254.engr.sgi.com X-Zm-Content-Name: acconfig.h Content-Description: Text Content-Type: text/plain ; name="acconfig.h" ; charset=us-ascii #ifndef _SYSADM_CONFIG_H #define _SYSADM_CONFIG_H @TOP@ /* ** acconfig.h ** ** This file contains macro definitions & comments which are used by ** "autoheader" and "configure" to generate config.h. */ /* Define if the C++ compiler supports a built-in bool type. */ #undef HAVE_BOOL /* Define if the C++ compiler supports namespaces. */ #undef HAVE_NAMESPACE /* Define if we can use _getpwent_no_yp to control whether getpwent(3C) ** uses yp. */ #undef HAVE__GETPWENT_NO_YP /* Define if we can use _getpwent_no_shadow to control whether getpwent(3C) ** uses shadow passwords. If this isn't set, it's assumed that getpwent ** etc. won't handle shadow passwords for us, and we have to call getspent ** ourselves. */ #undef HAVE__GETPWENT_NO_SHADOW /* Define if we have sginap(2), etc. */ #undef HAVE_SGINAP /* Define if we have deflt.h */ #undef HAVE_DEFLT_H /* Define if we have fam.h */ #undef HAVE_FAM_H /* Define if we have xpasswd in pwd.h */ #undef HAVE_XPASSWD /* why do I have to have these? PACKAGE and VERSION are defined by AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, and the examples don't say anything about having to mess with these things elsewhere. */ #undef PACKAGE #undef VERSION /* These are required? by GNU gettext. */ #undef ENABLE_NLS #undef HAVE_CATGETS #undef HAVE_GETTEXT #undef HAVE_LC_MESSAGES #undef HAVE_STPCPY @BOTTOM@ #endif /* _SYSADM_CONFIG_H */ --PART-BOUNDARY=.110010112202.ZM13254.engr.sgi.com-- -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Thu Oct 12 06:42:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:41:45 -0700 Received: from host1.SuSE.com ([202.58.118.3]:17925 "HELO lists.suse.com") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:41:26 -0700 Received: (qmail 9941 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 13:39:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zappa.oak.suse.com) (202.58.118.35) by lists.suse.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 13:39:45 -0000 Received: from Athenae.oak.suse.com (Athenae.oak.suse.com [192.168.0.169]) by zappa.oak.suse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2D8AFB08 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jrodman@localhost) by Athenae.oak.suse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id GAA31071 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:39:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:39:54 -0700 From: Joshua Rodman To: rhino@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Message-ID: <20001012063954.D11925@suse.com> References: <20001011190937.B11925@suse.com> <10010112202.ZM13254@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <10010112202.ZM13254@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com>; from rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:02:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing * Rusty Ballinger (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) [001012 05:08]: > > Looking inside my copy of automake (argh perl..) > > Oh man. How I wish autoconf used perl. I'd rather read perl than m4. In > fact I'd rather read perl and eat a box of thumbtacks than read m4. > > > I'm a bit frustrated that, out of the can, the source distribution tries > > to run autoheader from a ./configure; make. I can't believe this is > > desirable. Is there a fix which is trivial for you here? > > > > I feel that a delievered tarball should not require, nor try, to use any > > of the suite of autotools unless the consumer does something especially to > > request their activation. > > I agree with you, and I believe the authors of those tools agree with you as > well, as it works correctly (i.e. the way you describe) on my system. > > I think there are two unrelated problems here. One is aclocal failing, but > I'll come back to that below. The other problem is that, since you're using > the source tarball generated by automake, you've already got Makefile.in's, > and the instructions in README.maint don't apply to you Well, yes and no; if I want --without-fam they do. Mainly I was just playing around trying to figure out why it wasn't building. > instead try the > "configure/make/make install" instructions in the INSTALL file. That > shouldn't run aclocal, autoheader, automake, or autoconf; it should just > run the configure script and then build stuff. (Let me know if that's not > the case.) I thought it wasn't. Now I am thinking 'pilot error'. It was my impression that autoheader was run with ./configure; make when i had an inconsistent sent of autoconf/make/libtool installed. Is it appropriate to ship a package using auto* without including the ./libtool file? > (As you point out, part of the problem with following the README.maint > instructions is that autoheader fails because acconfig.h isn't included in > the source tarball. I don't know why automake doesn't include it by default; > I've just added it to the list of files to include so it will be in future > tarballs, and have attached a copy to this message. If you still want to go > the aclocal/autoheader/automake/etc. route, put this file at the top of the > sysadm_base tree.) Incidentally, the reason it doesn't fail for other people > following the instructions in the README.maint file is that they're building > in a source tree which was checked out from a repository which includes > acconfig.h. Which reminds me, I still haven't set up a rhino CVS tree on > oss.sgi.com yet...) > > As far as aclocal choking on AM_PROG_LIBTOOL, that shouldn't happen. I > assume you're running SuSE? :) > > I built this on SuSE 6.4 boxes not too long > ago; what versions of autoconf, automake, and libtool do you have? Oh geez. I've been using too many machines. On the 6.4 box libtool wasn't installed. That issue goes away. Anyway, here's a pointer to the rename issue: /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4: [...] dnl old names AC_DEFUN(AM_PROG_LIBTOOL, [indir([AC_PROG_LIBTOOL])])dnl That's from the libtool 1.3.4 (1.385.2.196 1999/12/07 21:47:57) > --Rusty -josh -- _,,wwww,,_ ,wиии^"^ииииииw, .dииииI,_,и***ииииb. _____ _____ ______ ____ .иии^ии*^'И ,Џ'иииии. / ___/__ __/ ___// ____/ / _/___ _____ :иииbwww** `7,'ииии: \__ \/ / / /\__ \/ __/ / // __ \/ ___/ `иииииии7' dииииии' ___/ / /_/ /___/ / /___ _/ // / / / /___ `7иииии' ,* иииии7' /____/\__,_//____/_____/ /___/_/ /_/\___(_) `*иbb. "и, иии*' Џ'^^ ^' 'Џ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Thu Oct 12 11:52:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:51:50 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:17422 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:51:37 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA06011 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:58:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA09180 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14411; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010121148.ZM14367@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:48:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joshua Rodman "Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question" (Oct 12, 6:39am) References: <20001011190937.B11925@suse.com> <10010112202.ZM13254@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> <20001012063954.D11925@suse.com> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: jrodman@suse.com Subject: Re: [rhino] Newbie foolish build question Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing > > The other problem is that, since you're using the source tarball > > generated by automake, you've already got Makefile.in's, and the > > instructions in README.maint don't apply to you > > Well, yes and no; if I want --without-fam they do. Ah, good point. > It was my impression that autoheader was run with ./configure; make when i > had an inconsistent sent of autoconf/make/libtool installed. I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be (even if you have a bad mix of autoconf/ automake/libtool); somewhere in the autoconf info page I think they say one of the reasons to use autoconf is that people can run configure etc. without having to install autoconf. (Note that "I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be" != "I know it doesn't".) (I know the generated Makefiles have some dependencies, where if you touch a Makefile.am, they will try to rerun automake etc. for that file, but it might also be--I don't know--that if the configure script doesn't find automake, it won't do that. And either way I think it shouldn't affect people who don't touch the Makefile.am's & any other files automake etc. thinks it owns.) > Is it appropriate to ship a package using auto* without including the > ./libtool file? I *think* so, since the libtool file seems to contain platform-specific stuff. (paths to linkers, compiler flags, whether or not shared libraries are supported, etc.) I think it gets generated at configure time by ltconfig and/or ltmain.sh? (which are both included in the tarball) --Rusty -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 24 00:13:30 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:13:21 -0700 Received: from brian.voerde.globvill.de ([212.20.160.32]:27233 "EHLO brian.voerde.globvill.de") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:13:07 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brian.voerde.globvill.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id HAA10459 for rhino@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:12:50 GMT Received: from host227.bzd.de (host227.bzd.de [192.168.1.227]) by gw-bzd.bzd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07863 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:01:06 +0200 Received: by host227.bzd.de with Microsoft Mail id <01C03D98.F2837A40@host227.bzd.de>; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:01:07 +0200 Message-ID: <01C03D98.F2837A40@host227.bzd.de> From: Thomas Dingermann To: "'rhino@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: [rhino] Rhino on SuSE-Linux 7.0 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:01:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing Hello, i tried to install sgi-failsafe and sgi-rhino. Evereything worked fine, but the sysadm_base-client.rpm requires IBMJava118-JRE. Where can i find this package? Regards, Thomas Dingermann Blutspendezentrum Duisburg -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Tue Oct 24 00:33:40 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:33:31 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46645 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:33:23 -0700 Received: from rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (rlyeh.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.94]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA09159 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rusty@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from rusty@localhost) by rlyeh.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA32735; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:32:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rusty Ballinger" Message-Id: <10010240032.ZM18116@rlyeh.engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:32:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: Thomas Dingermann "[rhino] Rhino on SuSE-Linux 7.0" (Oct 24, 9:01am) References: <01C03D98.F2837A40@host227.bzd.de> X-Face: #)4}U4e`O6YEe%oBzE}>ycmT!Xt?Myiqo~|p3Wh'UuQ[N7)&4\4?8:1n)bmPX]b@#k94%!VojpODdmk:sCr1b\-aXD&P:wjBqupMB:ag6}BwVseJZM@K{$E|0J9}&,Rpdg{&N4/Y8&PTm6>|r[,gI2T*qN!`AZhl>Bdy7JR`dDvP(/pz.}?Q@dg':mlV`RX51Z_ZG?Gta|Q!iA[MaOh Reply-To: rusty@sgi.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: td@bzd.de Subject: Re: [rhino] Rhino on SuSE-Linux 7.0 Cc: rhino@oss.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rhino@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;rhino-outgoing > i tried to install sgi-failsafe and sgi-rhino. > Evereything worked fine, but the sysadm_base-client.rpm requires > IBMJava118-JRE. Where can i find this package? You can get it from IBM's web site; try http://www.ibm.com/developer/java ? They allow people to redistribute the JRE, so I have just put a copy at oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/download/ (http or ftp), and am about to update the README with the notice required by IBM. :) --Rusty -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/rhino/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe rhino | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com