From markgw@sgi.com Sun Mar 2 20:43:37 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from tolkor.sgi.com (tolkor.sgi.com [198.149.18.6]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h234haeA006047 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:43:37 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by tolkor.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with SMTP id h234rokq009646 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:53:51 -0600 Received: from sherman.melbourne.sgi.com (sherman.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.232]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA09033 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:42:13 +1100 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:42:13 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Goodwin X-X-Sender: markgw@sherman.melbourne.sgi.com To: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: [announce] PCP 2.3.0-14 available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 223 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: markgw@sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp SGI is pleased to announce the next pre-release version 2.3.0-14 of Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) open source is now available for download from: ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/download/dev This version 2.3.0-14 will become the current stable version in a few days time - it has been extensively tested and passes QA. Thanks to those who contributed, in particular Ken McDonell, Troy Dawson and Mike Mason who all worked to nail the ksyms bug that was seg faulting on some platforms but not others, and to Zhang Sonic for his QA work. This version should also build and run on Solaris thanks to contributions from Alan Hoyt. Alan is also working on a Solaris platform PMDA. There are re-built RPMs for i386 and ia64 platforms in the above ftp directory. Other platforms will need to build RPMs from either the SRPM or from the tarball, e.g. : # tar xvzf pcp-2.3.0.src.tar.gz # cd pcp-2.3.0 # ./Makepkgs Please report any problems to the list. Thanks -- Mark Goodwin SGI Engineering. From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Mon Mar 3 06:18:10 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23EI9eA010232 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:18:10 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23EIGnu026203 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:18:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E636420.4040505@moser-inc.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:18:08 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PCP Subject: docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 224 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp >From the http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/contribute.html page: > >We have an HTML-based Tutorial for PCP that is shipped with the IRIX PCP >product. It needs some work to Linux-ise it and check it for correctness, and to >cull the parts that are not in the Open Source PCP release. What's the status of this tutorial? If it remains unaddressed - please send me a tarball so I can get this cleaned up for 2.3.0. - Alan - From dawson@fnal.gov Mon Mar 3 06:50:54 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from woozle.fnal.gov (woozle.fnal.gov [131.225.9.22]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23EoqeA010510 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:50:53 -0800 Received: from fnal.gov (thebrain.fnal.gov [131.225.80.75]) by woozle.fnal.gov (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.10 (built Jan 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HB600029H8S93@woozle.fnal.gov> for pcp@oss.sgi.com; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:50:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:50:53 -0600 From: Troy Dawson Subject: Re: [announce] PCP 2.3.0-14 available In-reply-to: To: Mark Goodwin Cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Message-id: <3E636BCD.8000300@fnal.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021204 References: X-archive-position: 225 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: dawson@fnal.gov Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I have tested this version of pcp (2.3.0-14) It works with our Fermi Linux, and it also doesn't get hurt with our security scans. Thank you very much. Troy Mark Goodwin wrote: > SGI is pleased to announce the next pre-release version 2.3.0-14 of > Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) open source is now available for download from: > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/download/dev > > This version 2.3.0-14 will become the current stable version in a few > days time - it has been extensively tested and passes QA. Thanks to > those who contributed, in particular Ken McDonell, Troy Dawson and Mike > Mason who all worked to nail the ksyms bug that was seg faulting on some > platforms but not others, and to Zhang Sonic for his QA work. This version > should also build and run on Solaris thanks to contributions from Alan > Hoyt. Alan is also working on a Solaris platform PMDA. > > There are re-built RPMs for i386 and ia64 platforms in the above ftp > directory. Other platforms will need to build RPMs from either the SRPM > or from the tarball, e.g. : > # tar xvzf pcp-2.3.0.src.tar.gz > # cd pcp-2.3.0 > # ./Makepkgs > > Please report any problems to the list. > > Thanks > -- Mark Goodwin > SGI Engineering. > > -- __________________________________________________ Troy Dawson dawson@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/OSS CSI Group __________________________________________________ From todd.c.davis@intel.com Mon Mar 3 06:54:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from caduceus.fm.intel.com (fmr02.intel.com [192.55.52.25]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23EsxeA010638 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:54:59 -0800 Received: from talaria.fm.intel.com (talaria.fm.intel.com [10.1.192.39]) by caduceus.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: outer.mc,v 1.51 2002/09/23 20:43:23 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id h23EmdN01668 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:48:39 GMT Received: from fmsmsxv040-1.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs040.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.124]) by talaria.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: inner.mc,v 1.28 2003/01/13 19:44:39 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id h23EuW116684 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:56:32 GMT Received: from FMSMSX016.fm.intel.com ([132.233.42.195]) by fmsmsxv040-1.fm.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2003030306551421299 ; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:55:14 -0800 Received: by fmsmsx016.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:54:57 -0800 Message-ID: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90970@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> From: "Davis, Todd C" To: "'Alan Hoyt'" , PCP Subject: RE: docs Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:54:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 226 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: todd.c.davis@intel.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I worked on the PCP tutorial in November and December using style sheets to render both the IRIX version and the open source version of the PCP tutorial from the same HTML source. When I got to the lab using the archives distributed with the tutorial, the archives did not work with the current version of PCP. Ken McDonell was going to work on the conversion of the V1 archives or the re-creation of new V2 archives. I haven't done anything more to the tutorial since mid-December. I would like to see this project resumed as there is very left to do once the archive issue is resolved. Todd C. Davis These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Hoyt [mailto:ahoyt@moser-inc.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:18 AM To: PCP Subject: docs >From the http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/contribute.html page: > >We have an HTML-based Tutorial for PCP that is shipped with the IRIX PCP >product. It needs some work to Linux-ise it and check it for correctness, and to >cull the parts that are not in the Open Source PCP release. What's the status of this tutorial? If it remains unaddressed - please send me a tarball so I can get this cleaned up for 2.3.0. - Alan - From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Mon Mar 3 10:26:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.sgi.com [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IQKeA018181 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:26:21 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (rattle.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.145]) by zok.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with ESMTP id h23IQEKp020485 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:26:15 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IOwAB14562186; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:24:58 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (kenmcd@localhost) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h23IOujJ14574145; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:24:57 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rattle.melbourne.sgi.com: kenmcd owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:24:56 +1100 From: Ken McDonell To: "Davis, Todd C" cc: "'Alan Hoyt'" , PCP Subject: RE: docs In-Reply-To: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90970@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 227 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp This issue is clearly in my court, and I apologize to Todd for not coming to closure ... I'll try to do that over the next week or so. We'd like to declare the 2.3 release "done" as soon as possible, so I'd consider this to be the first candidate for inclusion in a 2.4 "dev" release soon thereafter. On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Davis, Todd C wrote: > I worked on the PCP tutorial in November and December using style sheets to > render both the IRIX version and the open source version of the PCP tutorial > from the same HTML source. When I got to the lab using the archives > distributed with the tutorial, the archives did not work with the current > version of PCP. Ken McDonell was going to work on the conversion of the V1 > archives or the re-creation of new V2 archives. I haven't done anything more > to the tutorial since mid-December. I would like to see this project resumed > as there is very left to do once the archive issue is resolved. > > Todd C. Davis > These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hoyt [mailto:ahoyt@moser-inc.com] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:18 AM > To: PCP > Subject: docs > > >From the http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/contribute.html page: > > > >We have an HTML-based Tutorial for PCP that is shipped with the IRIX PCP > >product. It needs some work to Linux-ise it and check it for > correctness, and to > >cull the parts that are not in the Open Source PCP release. > > What's the status of this tutorial? If it remains unaddressed - please > send me a tarball so I can get this cleaned up for 2.3.0. > > - Alan - > > From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Mon Mar 3 10:30:43 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IUgeA018218 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:30:43 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23IUlnu000606; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:30:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E639F4E.3010707@moser-inc.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:30:38 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken McDonell CC: PCP Subject: Re: docs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 228 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp So you want the balance of the Solaris changes to go into 2.4 "dev"? - Alan - Ken McDonell wrote: >This issue is clearly in my court, and I apologize to Todd for not >coming to closure ... I'll try to do that over the next week or so. > >We'd like to declare the 2.3 release "done" as soon as possible, so I'd >consider this to be the first candidate for inclusion in a 2.4 "dev" >release soon thereafter. > > >On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Davis, Todd C wrote: > > > >>I worked on the PCP tutorial in November and December using style sheets to >>render both the IRIX version and the open source version of the PCP tutorial >>from the same HTML source. When I got to the lab using the archives >>distributed with the tutorial, the archives did not work with the current >>version of PCP. Ken McDonell was going to work on the conversion of the V1 >>archives or the re-creation of new V2 archives. I haven't done anything more >>to the tutorial since mid-December. I would like to see this project resumed >>as there is very left to do once the archive issue is resolved. >> >>Todd C. Davis >>These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Alan Hoyt [mailto:ahoyt@moser-inc.com] >>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:18 AM >>To: PCP >>Subject: docs >> >> >From the http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/contribute.html page: >> > >> >We have an HTML-based Tutorial for PCP that is shipped with the IRIX PCP >> >product. It needs some work to Linux-ise it and check it for >>correctness, and to >> >cull the parts that are not in the Open Source PCP release. >> >>What's the status of this tutorial? If it remains unaddressed - please >>send me a tarball so I can get this cleaned up for 2.3.0. >> >>- Alan - >> >> >> >> > > > > > From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Mon Mar 3 10:32:55 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rj.sgi.com (rj.sgi.com [192.82.208.96]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IWseA018235 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:32:55 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (rattle.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.145]) by rj.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with ESMTP id h23IWmG8030622 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:32:48 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IVWAB14579796; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:31:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (kenmcd@localhost) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h23IVVKB14369961; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:31:31 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rattle.melbourne.sgi.com: kenmcd owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:31:31 +1100 From: Ken McDonell To: Alan Hoyt cc: PCP Subject: Re: docs In-Reply-To: <3E639F4E.3010707@moser-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 229 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Alan Hoyt wrote: > So you want the balance of the Solaris changes to go into 2.4 "dev"? That would be my preference. From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Mon Mar 3 10:50:18 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IoIeA018396 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:50:18 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23IoNnu000915; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:50:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E63A3E6.1030409@moser-inc.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:50:14 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken McDonell CC: PCP Subject: Re: docs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 230 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp It seems odd not to provide "complete" OS platform support in a release... but obviously it's your call. - Alan - Ken McDonell wrote: >On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Alan Hoyt wrote: > > > >>So you want the balance of the Solaris changes to go into 2.4 "dev"? >> >> > >That would be my preference. > > > > > From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Mon Mar 3 11:25:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23JP5eA019957 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:25:06 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23JPCnu001533; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:25:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E63AC0E.3020400@moser-inc.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:25:02 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PCP CC: Mark Boyd Subject: dbms pmda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mcimail.moser-inc.com id h23JPCnu001533 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by oss.sgi.com id h23JP5eA019957 X-archive-position: 231 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp >Also from the http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/contribute.html page: > >Agents for Oracle, Informix and Sybase (we have these for IRIX, but >need someone with relevant DBMS expertise who might be willing >to make them operational for Linux and help keep them working Two Issues: 1) I have had some detailed discussions with Mark Boyd about per session metrics and name space management on large servers running multiple Oracle instances - there seems to be a diverging metrics acquisition philosophy emerging. 2) We need to get the Oracle and Sybase pmdas into PCP release 2.4. Having access to the existing Oracle/Sybase pmda source code could help elucidate design tradeoff decisions that were made in the older releases and help expedite our efforts. What we are proposing: If SGI provides: • Open Source versions of the existing Oracle and Sybase pmdas • Any related Oracle/Sybase QA scripts (whenever the opportunity arises). We will provide: • Clean up existing source code - merge pmda code and resolve metric acquisition philosophies between pmdas (adding support for Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.2 - i.e. a substantial update). • Clean up non portable source dependencies (i.e. IRIX, Linux IA32, Solaris) • Provide RPM and PKG build scripts • Provide on-going maintenance and gatekeeper functions for Oracle and Sybase pmdas. Note: Our pmda should support Oracle 9.2 on Linux IA64 (which is currently in beta) but this is not currently a priority. As a result, the wider PCP community would benefit from having updated Oracle and Sybase pmdas - this would definitely help improve the value added prospect of PCP. - Alan - From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Mon Mar 3 12:24:10 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rj.sgi.com (rj.sgi.com [192.82.208.96]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23KO9eA022001 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:24:10 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (rattle.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.145]) by rj.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with ESMTP id h23KO3G8011286 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:24:04 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23KMlAB14534619; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:22:47 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (kenmcd@localhost) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h23KMk2q14573003; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:22:46 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rattle.melbourne.sgi.com: kenmcd owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:22:46 +1100 From: Ken McDonell To: Alan Hoyt cc: PCP Subject: Re: docs In-Reply-To: <3E63A3E6.1030409@moser-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 232 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp We've already released PCP 2.3 for IRIX, and our Linux release to support the SGI Altix 3000 platform, so I'd like to re-sync the latest open source official release to be 2.3, especially as all of these are built from a single source tree. We'll move almost immediately to a 2.4 dev stream for the open source version. So the definition if what's "in" a particular release is (a) somewhat arbitrary, and (b) influenced by factors outside the open source release of PCP. On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Alan Hoyt wrote: > It seems odd not to provide "complete" OS platform support in a > release... but obviously it's your call. > > - Alan - > > Ken McDonell wrote: > > >On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Alan Hoyt wrote: > > > > > > > >>So you want the balance of the Solaris changes to go into 2.4 "dev"? > >> > >> > > > >That would be my preference. > > > > > > > > > > > From tichi404@yahoo.com Wed Mar 5 08:25:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 08:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13306.mail.yahoo.com (web13306.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.42]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h25GPlf21735 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:25:47 -0800 Message-ID: <20030305162547.719.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.250.3.126] by web13306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 08:25:47 PST Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) From: ti chi Subject: PCP Agent Question? To: pcp@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 233 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: tichi404@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Hi everyone! I am new and have basic question. I need to monitor many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with tomcat or just apache? -- Ti __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From ahyt@earthlink.net Wed Mar 5 19:56:33 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h263uWq9014576 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:56:32 -0800 Received: from user-0c93crm.cable.mindspring.com ([24.145.179.118] helo=earthlink.net) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18qmUh-0006VB-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:56:31 -0800 Message-ID: <3E66C704.9050709@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:56:52 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PCP CC: Alan Hoyt Subject: echo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 234 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahyt@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Two issues: * $PCP_ECHO_N is not being set to –n (e.g. pcp license: line ) * Solaris $PCP_ECHO_PROG is set incorrectly to /usr/bin - should be /usr/ucb/ Also, the Solaris man page installs have been broken - I’ll look into it tomorrow. - Alan - From makc@melbourne.sgi.com Thu Mar 6 01:01:33 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.SGI.COM [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2691Uq9020162 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:01:33 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by zok.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with SMTP id h2691O9n012628 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:01:25 -0800 Received: from kuku.melbourne.sgi.com (kuku.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.163]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA14823; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:00:07 +1100 Received: from kuku.melbourne.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuku.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h26906YL5357715; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:00:06 +1100 (EST) Received: (from makc@localhost) by kuku.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h26906865345105; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:00:06 +1100 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15975.3606.563874.828131@kuku.melbourne.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:00:06 +1100 From: Max Matveev To: ti chi Cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: PCP Agent Question? In-Reply-To: <20030305162547.719.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030305162547.719.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid X-archive-position: 235 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: makc@sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp >>>>> "TC" == ti chi writes: TC> I am new and have basic question. I need to monitor TC> many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with tomcat TC> or just apache? If tomcat's logs are in the same format as apaches, then apache agent should be able to monitor tomcat too. max From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Thu Mar 6 01:48:58 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from tolkor.sgi.com (tolkor.sgi.com [198.149.18.6]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h269muq9021247 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:48:57 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by tolkor.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with SMTP id h269xMkq026294 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 03:59:23 -0600 Received: from kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com (kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.215]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA15111; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:47:30 +1100 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:50:07 +1100 (EST) From: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Reply-To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com To: ti chi cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: PCP Agent Question? In-Reply-To: <20030305162547.719.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 236 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, ti chi wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I am new and have basic question. I need to monitor > many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with tomcat > or just apache? I have a more basic question ... what is tomcat? The apache PMDA is specific to the stats API Apache supports. The weblog PMDA uses a more general (but less efficient) method that involves parsing webserver access logs ... this agent knows about lots of access log formats and the places where lots of webservers hide their access logs, so it has a good chance of just working for a range of webserver deployments. From tichi404@yahoo.com Thu Mar 6 07:57:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13303.mail.yahoo.com (web13303.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.39]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h26Fvwq9018179 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:57:59 -0800 Message-ID: <20030306154800.11323.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.250.3.126] by web13303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:48:00 PST Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:48:00 -0800 (PST) From: ti chi Subject: Re: PCP Agent Question? To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 237 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: tichi404@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp --- kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, ti chi wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > I am new and have basic question. I need to > monitor > > many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with > tomcat > > or just apache? > > I have a more basic question ... what is tomcat? > Apache+Java see http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html > The apache PMDA is specific to the stats API Apache > supports. > > The weblog PMDA uses a more general (but less > efficient) method I try weblog agent and see results. Thanks for everyone help! -- Ti __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Savimbi From dtj@uberh4x0r.org Thu Mar 6 09:31:31 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.cray.com [136.162.0.111]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h26HVUq9027579 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:31:31 -0800 Received: from relayb.mw.cray.com (relayb.us.cray.com [192.168.252.110]) by mail1.cray.com (8.12.8/8.12.3/gw-1.14) with ESMTP id h26HVNwh019620 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:31:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from saffron.us.cray.com (saffron.mw.cray.com [172.31.27.14]) by relayb.mw.cray.com (8.12.8/8.12.6/hub-1.2) with ESMTP id h26HVMNt005186 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:31:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from caffeine.us.cray.com (caffeine [172.31.17.54]) by saffron.us.cray.com (8.8.8/Cray-server-1.6-nhsmod011017) with ESMTP id LAA1896739 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:31:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: private From: Dean Johnson To: pcp@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <200303061720.h26HKUq9027489@oss.sgi.com> References: <200303061720.h26HKUq9027489@oss.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1046972261.1038.33.camel@caffeine> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 06 Mar 2003 11:37:42 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean X-archive-position: 239 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: dtj@uberh4x0r.org Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Its good to see that PCP is big in Angola and amongst international fugitives. Is there an agent to monitor funds transfers? Just wondering... -- Dean Johnson From tichi404@yahoo.com Thu Mar 6 13:39:23 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13305.mail.yahoo.com (web13305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.41]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h26Lchq9013904 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:39:23 -0800 Message-ID: <20030306213843.86643.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.250.3.126] by web13305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:38:43 PST Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: ti chi Subject: Re: private To: Dean Johnson , pcp@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <1046972261.1038.33.camel@caffeine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 240 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: tichi404@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I get it! You funny guy :-) -- Ti --- Dean Johnson wrote: > Its good to see that PCP is big in Angola and > amongst international > fugitives. Is there an agent to monitor funds > transfers? Just > wondering... > > -- > Dean Johnson > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Thu Mar 6 14:12:57 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h26MCtq9016923 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:12:56 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h26MCxV3016523 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:12:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E67C7E2.6020102@moser-inc.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:12:50 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PCP Subject: Re: echo References: <3E66C704.9050709@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3E66C704.9050709@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 241 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Alan Hoyt wrote: > Two issues: > > * Solaris $PCP_ECHO_PROG is set incorrectly to /usr/bin - should be > /usr/ucb/ > This occurred in 2.3.0-13 not 2.3.0-14 From ahoyt@moser-inc.com Thu Mar 6 14:16:28 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcimail.moser-inc.com ([207.250.3.118]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h26MGRq9017689 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:16:28 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h26MGUV3016586; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:16:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E67C8B5.8030901@moser-inc.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:16:21 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PCP , Ken McDonell Subject: preference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 242 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Ken, Would you prefer to get the Solaris QA changes in one large patch or piecemeal as I step through the cases? - Alan - From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Thu Mar 6 20:19:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.SGI.COM [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h274Jwq9018894 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:19:59 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (rattle.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.145]) by zok.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with ESMTP id h274Jq9n012054 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:19:53 -0800 Received: from rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h274IaAB14574000; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:18:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (kenmcd@localhost) by rattle.melbourne.sgi.com (SGI-8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h274IYDF14629584; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:18:35 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rattle.melbourne.sgi.com: kenmcd owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:18:34 +1100 From: Ken McDonell To: Alan Hoyt cc: PCP Subject: Re: preference In-Reply-To: <3E67C8B5.8030901@moser-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 243 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp Whatever works for you ... I'm more likely to be able to respond to small pieces that a monster patch, as things are just crazy here at the moment. On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Alan Hoyt wrote: > Ken, > > Would you prefer to get the Solaris QA changes in one large patch or > piecemeal as I step through the cases? > > - Alan - > From tichi404@yahoo.com Mon Mar 17 14:53:52 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2HMrBq9012742 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:53:52 -0800 Message-ID: <20030317225311.69255.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.250.3.126] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:53:11 PST Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: ti chi Subject: Re: PCP Agent Question? To: pcp@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <20030306154800.11323.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1307762348-1047941591=:68114" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 244 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: tichi404@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp --0-1307762348-1047941591=:68114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, I finish testing PCP against tomcat on Linux server - everything OK. I then compile for our many production solaris servers and got weblog agent to work on tomcat but not see solaris agent. Where I find and install solaris agent? -- Ti ti chi wrote: --- kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, ti chi wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > I am new and have basic question. I need to > monitor > > many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with > tomcat > > or just apache? > > I have a more basic question ... what is tomcat? > Apache+Java see http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html > The apache PMDA is specific to the stats API Apache > supports. > > The weblog PMDA uses a more general (but less > efficient) method I try weblog agent and see results. Thanks for everyone help! -- Ti __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! --0-1307762348-1047941591=:68114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
OK, I finish testing PCP against tomcat on Linux server - everything OK.  
I then compile for our many production solaris servers and got weblog agent to work on tomcat but not see solaris agent.  
Where I find and install solaris agent?
-- Ti
 

 ti chi <tichi404@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, ti chi wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I am new and have basic question. I need to
> monitor
> > many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with
> tomcat
> > or just apache?
>
> I have a more basic question ... what is tomcat?
>

Apache+Java see
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html

> The apache PMDA is specific to the stats API Apache
> supports.
>
> The weblog PMDA uses a more general (but less
> efficient) method

I try weblog agent and see results. Thanks for
everyone help!

-- Ti

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Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! --0-1307762348-1047941591=:68114-- From todd.c.davis@intel.com Tue Mar 18 08:35:56 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.fm.intel.com (fmr01.intel.com [192.55.52.18]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2IGZtq9028033 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:35:56 -0800 Received: from petasus.fm.intel.com (petasus.fm.intel.com [10.1.192.37]) by hermes.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: outer.mc,v 1.51 2002/09/23 20:43:23 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id h2IGWPH11205 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:32:27 GMT Received: from fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.128]) by petasus.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: inner.mc,v 1.28 2003/01/13 19:44:39 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id h2IGUAv06616 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:30:10 GMT Received: from fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM ([132.233.42.29]) by fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2003031808384801063 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:38:49 -0800 Received: by fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:35:50 -0800 Message-ID: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90983@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> From: "Davis, Todd C" To: "'pcp@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:36:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 245 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: todd.c.davis@intel.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp With no disk activity on the system I see disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on the root drive. The last sample had some disk io but the disk.dev.avactive number did not change and disk.dev.aveq number did not change significantly. Are these metrics supposed to me accurate? They look bogus to me. I am running RetHat Advanced Sever with a 2.4.18 kernel with the sard patch applied. The script: pmie -f -e -V <; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 05:54:08 -0800 Received: from moser-inc.com (r9100-vpn.moser-inc.com [207.250.3.126] (may be forged)) by mcimail.moser-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2JDrFV3012247; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:53:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E787654.9030502@moser-inc.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:53:24 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ti chi CC: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: PCP Agent Question? References: <20030317225311.69255.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030317225311.69255.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 246 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: ahoyt@moser-inc.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I guess you're asking for a Solaris pmda status update, so here it is: We are working with Sun Microsystems to get the Solaris pmda tested in their iForce centers - this requires adequate GUI tools necessary for the testing requirements which we don't currently have. We contacted both SGI sales and Ken McDonell about garnering use of the PCP GUI tools, but both were unresponsive to our queries. As a result, things have been delayed while we write the necessary GUI interface. Once the GUI is completed, we must finish patching both PCP and the QA suite to resolve the remaining Solaris centric dependencies/issues. In other words, the existing Solaris support within PCP (I am assuming you are referring to release 2.3.0-14) is incomplete and should NOT be deployed in a production environment. Also, you didn't mention which version of Solaris you were referring to - we are only targeting releases 8 and 9 on Sparc. To summarize, we need to complete the GUI, complete the testing process and merge the remaining (i.e. necessary) patches into the PCP framework - then we will release the Solaris pmda to the public under the GPL. - Alan - ti chi wrote: >OK, I finish testing PCP against tomcat on Linux server - everything OK. > >I then compile for our many production solaris servers and got weblog agent to work on tomcat but not see solaris agent. > >Where I find and install solaris agent? > >-- Ti > > > > */ti chi /* wrote: > > > --- kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, ti chi wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > I am new and have basic question. I need to > > monitor > > > many tomcat servers - can use apache agent with > > tomcat > > > or just apache? > > > > I have a more basic question ... what is tomcat? > > > > Apache+Java see > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html > > > The apache PMDA is specific to the stats API Apache > > supports. > > > > The weblog PMDA uses a more general (but less > > efficient) method > > I try weblog agent and see results. Thanks for > everyone help! > > -- Ti > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ! Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum > > - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop > ! From todd.c.davis@intel.com Wed Mar 19 11:42:58 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.fm.intel.com (fmr01.intel.com [192.55.52.18]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2JJgwq9011776 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:42:58 -0800 Received: from petasus.fm.intel.com (petasus.fm.intel.com [10.1.192.37]) by hermes.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: outer.mc,v 1.51 2002/09/23 20:43:23 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id h2JJdQ527081 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:39:28 GMT Received: from fmsmsxv040-1.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs040.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.124]) by petasus.fm.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: inner.mc,v 1.28 2003/01/13 19:44:39 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id h2JJb4t09539 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:37:08 GMT Received: from fmsmsx26.fm.intel.com ([132.233.42.26]) by fmsmsxv040-1.fm.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2003031911425921548 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:42:59 -0800 Received: by fmsmsx26.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:42:44 -0800 Message-ID: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90988@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> From: "Davis, Todd C" To: "'pcp@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: RE: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:42:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 247 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: todd.c.davis@intel.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I think I found part of the bug for these metrics. The metrics are being converted to milliseconds twice, in the sard patch and in the Linux pmda: From sard patch: +#define MSEC(x) ((x) * 1000 / HZ) + MSEC(hd->rd_ticks), + hd->wr_ios, hd->wr_merges, + hd->wr_sectors, + MSEC(hd->wr_ticks), + hd->ios_in_flight, + MSEC(hd->io_ticks), + MSEC(hd->aveq)); +#undef MSEC From the Linux pmda: case 46: /* disk.dev.avactive */ atom->ul = 1000 * p->io_ticks / proc_stat.hz; break; case 47: /* disk.dev.aveq */ atom->ul = 1000 * p->aveq / proc_stat.hz; break; case 44: /* disk.all.avactive */ atom->ull += 1000 * p->io_ticks / proc_stat.hz; break; case 45: /* disk.all.aveq */ atom->ull += 1000 * p->aveq / proc_stat.hz; break; Also shouldn't all the metrics be ull? Todd C. Davis These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Todd C Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:36 AM To: 'pcp@oss.sgi.com' Subject: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server With no disk activity on the system I see disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on the root drive. The last sample had some disk io but the disk.dev.avactive number did not change and disk.dev.aveq number did not change significantly. Are these metrics supposed to me accurate? They look bogus to me. I am running RetHat Advanced Sever with a 2.4.18 kernel with the sard patch applied. The script: pmie -f -e -V <; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:58 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by rj.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with SMTP id h2KIxpnH028232 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:51 -0800 Received: from kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com (kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.215]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA08670; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 05:58:30 +1100 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 06:01:55 +1100 (EST) From: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Reply-To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com To: "Davis, Todd C" cc: "'pcp@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: RE: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server In-Reply-To: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90988@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 249 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp I should read _all_ my mail backlog before responding. Yep Todd, this looks busted. But I believe the Linux PMDA conversion dates from some version of the sard patch (or similar) in the past that did _not_ have the prior conversion in the times. I'll snoop around some and see if it looks safe to rip the conversion out of the Linux PMDA. I've checked locally and the numbers are definitely too high by a factor of 10 on Linux 2.4.20 + xfs ... I've opened a bug to track this within SGI ... we'll spin the first "dev" version of PCP 2.5 with the fix for this. However, none of this changes my basic belief that disk.dev.aveq is not helpful in monitoring disk performance ... contrary to what I said earlier, disk.dev.avactive is useful and we need this to be correct. As to the second ull question, the basic guidance is that if the native instrumentation is 32-bit ctrs, and you start to add these up (as in disk.all.x = sum (disk.dev.x)) then the sum should be 64-bit to avoid overflows. Similiar things happen when you add reads + writes to give totals, or convert from blocks to Kbytes, or ticks to msec. I'll review the data types for the disk metrics to make sure this is correct. Thanks Todd. On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Davis, Todd C wrote: > I think I found part of the bug for these metrics. The metrics are being > converted to milliseconds twice, in the sard patch and in the Linux pmda: > > >From sard patch: > +#define MSEC(x) ((x) * 1000 / HZ) > + MSEC(hd->rd_ticks), > + hd->wr_ios, hd->wr_merges, > + hd->wr_sectors, > + MSEC(hd->wr_ticks), > + hd->ios_in_flight, > + MSEC(hd->io_ticks), > + MSEC(hd->aveq)); > +#undef MSEC > > >From the Linux pmda: > case 46: /* disk.dev.avactive */ > atom->ul = 1000 * p->io_ticks / proc_stat.hz; > break; > case 47: /* disk.dev.aveq */ > atom->ul = 1000 * p->aveq / proc_stat.hz; > break; > > > case 44: /* disk.all.avactive */ > atom->ull += 1000 * p->io_ticks / proc_stat.hz; > break; > case 45: /* disk.all.aveq */ > atom->ull += 1000 * p->aveq / proc_stat.hz; > break; > > Also shouldn't all the metrics be ull? > > Todd C. Davis > These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Davis, Todd C > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:36 AM > To: 'pcp@oss.sgi.com' > Subject: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server > > > With no disk activity on the system I see disk.dev.avactive and > disk.dev.aveq on the root drive. The last sample had some disk io but the > disk.dev.avactive number did not change and disk.dev.aveq number did not > change significantly. Are these metrics supposed to me accurate? They look > bogus to me. > > I am running RetHat Advanced Sever with a 2.4.18 kernel with the sard patch > applied. > > The script: > > pmie -f -e -V < // > // Watch average disk utilization and average queue length > // > myhost = "localhost"; // the host of interest > delta = 3 sec; > Block_total = > disk.dev.blktotal :\$myhost; > Average_disk_utilization = > disk.dev.avactive :\$myhost; > Average_queue_length = > disk.dev.aveq :\$myhost; > > pmie.end > > The output: > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:06 2003): ? ? > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:06 2003): ? ? > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:06 2003): ? ? > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:09 2003): > localhost: [sda] 0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:09 2003): > localhost: [sda] 10.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:09 2003): > localhost: [sda] 30.1 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:12 2003): > localhost: [sda] 0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:12 2003): > localhost: [sda] 10.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:12 2003): > localhost: [sda] 30.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:15 2003): > localhost: [sda] 0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:15 2003): > localhost: [sda] 10.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:15 2003): > localhost: [sda] 30.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:18 2003): > localhost: [sda] 0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:18 2003): > localhost: [sda] 10.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:18 2003): > localhost: [sda] 30.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > > Block_total (Tue Mar 18 11:09:21 2003): > localhost: [sda] 85 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_disk_utilization (Tue Mar 18 11:09:21 2003): > localhost: [sda] 10.0 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > Average_queue_length (Tue Mar 18 11:09:21 2003): > localhost: [sda] 30.9 > localhost: [sdb] 0 > > Todd C. Davis > These are my opinions and absolutely not official opinions of Intel Corp. > Telco Systems Development > Intel Corporation, Columbia Design Center > CBA-2, Suite 100 > 250 Berry Hill Road > Columbia, SC 29210 > (803) 461-6108 > fax:: (803) 461-6292 > mailto:todd.c.davis@intel.com > > > > From kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Thu Mar 20 10:59:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list pcp); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.SGI.COM [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2KIxwq9005650 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:59 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by zok.sgi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/linux-outbound_gateway-1.2) with ESMTP id h2KIvIug005550 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:53 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (8.12.8/8.11.4/nodin-1.0) with SMTP id h2KHoG4L24081428 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com (kenj-ppp.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.215]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA08097; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 04:48:53 +1100 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 04:52:18 +1100 (EST) From: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Reply-To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com To: "Davis, Todd C" cc: "'pcp@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: Re: disk.dev.avactive and disk.dev.aveq on RH Advanced Server In-Reply-To: <29AD895CE780D511A8870002A50A666D04F90983@hdsmsx106.hd.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-archive-position: 248 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-to: pcp-bounce@oss.sgi.com X-original-sender: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Precedence: bulk X-list: pcp On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Davis, Todd C wrote: > > With no disk activity on the system I see disk.dev.avactive and > disk.dev.aveq on the root drive. The last sample had some disk io but the > disk.dev.avactive number did not change and disk.dev.aveq number did not > change significantly. Are these metrics supposed to me accurate? They look > bogus to me. The counters are correct. The semantics of these metrics are brain-dead from birth ... a genetic weakness passed down through the generations from sadc in Unix edition 7 or thereabouts. When we get the tutorial out there, you'll see a long diatribe from me on how to measure disk performance, and aveq and avactive are highlighted as not helpful.