From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Tue Nov 13 15:33:41 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fADNXfw28544 for pcp-outgoing; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:33:41 -0800 Received: from web12901.mail.yahoo.com (web12901.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.68]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fADNXe028541 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:33:40 -0800 Message-ID: <20011113233340.90449.qmail@web12901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.244.233.2] by web12901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:33:40 PST Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Than Subject: Java & PCP To: pcp@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Has anyone done anything with Java and PCP? Than __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Tue Nov 13 16:40:14 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fAE0eEi30595 for pcp-outgoing; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:40:14 -0800 Received: from web12906.mail.yahoo.com (web12906.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.73]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAE0eC030592 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:40:12 -0800 Message-ID: <20011114004011.30294.qmail@web12906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.244.233.2] by web12906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:40:11 PST Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:40:11 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Than Subject: Java and PCP (again) To: pcp@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Sorry about the premature last post .. I was wondering if there has been any work done with Java in regards to monitoring tools. I saw mention of Java classes for the SGI (under the trace demo I think), but have not seen any reference to them on the OSS site, or on this list. Any pointers/URLs would be handy. Thanks! Than __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Tue Nov 13 16:55:48 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fAE0tmi31009 for pcp-outgoing; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:55:48 -0800 Received: from yog-sothoth.sgi.com (eugate.sgi.com [192.48.160.10]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAE0ti031006 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:55:44 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by yog-sothoth.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam-europe) via SMTP id BAA2556307 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:55:42 +0100 (CET) mail_from (markgw@sgi.com) Received: from sherman.melbourne.sgi.com (sherman.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.175]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA15406; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:49:18 +1100 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:49:18 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Goodwin X-Sender: markgw@sherman.melbourne.sgi.com To: Uncle Than cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Java and PCP (again) In-Reply-To: <20011114004011.30294.qmail@web12906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Uncle Than wrote: > I was wondering if there has been any work done > with Java in regards to monitoring tools. yes there has been: SGI developed a native methods binding to a C++ API library layered over libpcp, and a suite of Java classes over that. Swing applets showing PCP metrics were pretty easy to write, but we hit snags with Netscape's java vm, etc etc. Neither the C++ library, the native methods binding nor any of the Java classes have been released to open source. But given the java stuff is not shipped in any SGI product, the code is just rotting and maybe we should release it. > > I saw mention of Java classes for the SGI (under > the trace demo I think), but have not seen any reference > to them on the OSS site, or on this list. The Java classes you saw were probably a Java binding for the trace API. There is a fortran binding too. > > Any pointers/URLs would be handy. See also some man pages: pmdatrace(1), pmdatrace(3), pmtrace(1) -- Mark From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Sun Nov 25 22:26:20 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fAQ6QKs06815 for pcp-outgoing; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:26:20 -0800 Received: from latte.harvard.edu (latte.harvard.edu [140.247.210.252]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAQ6QDo06812 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:26:13 -0800 Received: from www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu (www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.210.43]) by latte.harvard.edu with esmtp; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:26:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:26:10 -0500 (EST) From: Micah Altman X-Sender: maltman@www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu Reply-To: Micah_Altman@harvard.edu To: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: pmie_check starts too many pmie processes when /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Under RH 6.2 and PCP 2.2.1... When /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link, pmie_check fails to detect that a pmie process exists, even when it already running, and starts another one. This leads to an accumulation of pmie processes and eventually to proc-table overflow. The is a patch for pmie_check that eliminates the problem of pmie_check failing to detect run. The fix works for our case, but is probably incorrect -- so please consider it an illustration. The problem seems to be that the symlink makes $logfile <> $p_logfile when they both, in fact, refer to the same file. *** /usr/share/pcp/bin/pmie_check Sun Aug 12 00:44:16 2001 --- pmie_check Sun Nov 25 23:50:38 2001 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! #! /bin/sh #Tag 0x00010D13 # # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. --- 1,4 ---- ! #! /bin/sh #Tag 0x00010D13 # # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. *************** *** 473,479 **** NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } { next }'` ! if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] then pid=$p_id break --- 473,481 ---- NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } { next }'` ! ! ##if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] ! if [ $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] # fixes problem when /var/log/pcp is a symlink , but not sure if it's correct then pid=$p_id break ______________________________________________________________________________ Micah Altman, Ph.D. Associate Director, Harvard-MIT Data Center Director, Virtual Data Center Project, Harvard U. Library Research Associate, Center for Basic Research in the Social Science, Faculty of Arts & Sciences, Harvard University micah_altman@harvard.edu http://data.fas.harvard.edu/micah_altman/ "Entia non sunt multiplicanda sine necessitate" - Doctor Invincibilis ("Ad indicia spectate." - Micah's corollary) Disclaimer: This is an unofficial, unsigned, document. (Copyright 2001) From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Mon Nov 26 19:07:08 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fAR378e03482 for pcp-outgoing; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:07:08 -0800 Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.sgi.com [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAR370o03478 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:07:00 -0800 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by zok.sgi.com (8.11.4/8.11.4/linux-outbound_gateway-1.1) with SMTP id fAR26rA17520 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:06:53 -0800 Received: from [192.82.201.46] ([192.82.201.46]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA00980; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:05:19 +1100 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:09:00 +1100 (EST) From: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com Reply-To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com To: Micah Altman cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: pmie_check starts too many pmie processes when /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk I've tried and I'm afraid I cannot reproduce this ... could you please send me ... 1. contents of /var/pcp/config/pmie/control 2. output from: ls -l /var/log/pcp 3. output from: pminfo -f pmcd.pmie 4. output from: ps -ef | grep pmie 5. output from: ls -l /var/tmp/pmie 6. output from: pmie_check -V 7. output from: pminfo -f pmcd.pmie 8. output from: ps -ef | grep pmie 9. output from: ls -l /var/tmp/pmie Thanks. On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Micah Altman wrote: > > Under RH 6.2 and PCP 2.2.1... > > When /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link, pmie_check fails to detect that a > pmie process exists, even when it already running, and starts another > one. This leads to an accumulation of pmie processes and eventually to > proc-table overflow. > > The is a patch for pmie_check that eliminates the problem of pmie_check > failing to detect run. The fix works for our case, but is probably > incorrect -- so please consider it an illustration. The problem seems to > be that the symlink makes $logfile <> $p_logfile when they both, in fact, > refer to the same file. > > > *** /usr/share/pcp/bin/pmie_check Sun Aug 12 00:44:16 2001 > --- pmie_check Sun Nov 25 23:50:38 2001 > *************** > *** 1,4 **** > ! #! /bin/sh > #Tag 0x00010D13 > # > # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > --- 1,4 ---- > ! #! /bin/sh > #Tag 0x00010D13 > # > # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > *************** > *** 473,479 **** > NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > { next }'` > ! if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] > then > pid=$p_id > break > --- 473,481 ---- > NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > { next }'` > ! > ! ##if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] > ! if [ $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] # fixes problem when /var/log/pcp is a symlink , but not sure if it's correct > then > pid=$p_id > break > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Micah Altman, Ph.D. Associate Director, Harvard-MIT Data Center > Director, Virtual Data Center Project, Harvard U. Library > Research Associate, Center for Basic Research in the Social Science, > Faculty of Arts & Sciences, Harvard University > micah_altman@harvard.edu http://data.fas.harvard.edu/micah_altman/ > "Entia non sunt multiplicanda sine necessitate" - Doctor Invincibilis > ("Ad indicia spectate." - Micah's corollary) > Disclaimer: This is an unofficial, unsigned, document. (Copyright 2001) > > From owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Mon Nov 26 19:53:32 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id fAR3rWE04836 for pcp-outgoing; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:53:32 -0800 Received: from latte.harvard.edu (latte.harvard.edu [140.247.210.252]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAR3rBo04819 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:53:11 -0800 Received: from www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu (www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.210.43]) by latte.harvard.edu with esmtp; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:53:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: Micah Altman X-Sender: maltman@www-vdc.fas.harvard.edu Reply-To: Micah_Altman@harvard.edu To: kenmcd@melbourne.sgi.com cc: pcp@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: pmie_check starts too many pmie processes when /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_latte.harvard.edu-10219-1006829590-0001-2" Sender: owner-pcp@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_latte.harvard.edu-10219-1006829590-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've tried and I'm afraid I cannot reproduce this ... could you please > send me ... > > 1. contents of /var/pcp/config/pmie/control Attached > 2. output from: ls -l /var/log/pcp [root@latte pmlogger]# ls -l /var/log/pcp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Nov 3 13:59 /var/log/pcp -> /home/logs/pcp/ > 3. output from: pminfo -f pmcd.pmie Attached > 4. output from: ps -ef | grep pmie [root@latte pmlogger]# ps -ef | grep pmie root 5932 1 0 Nov24 ? 00:00:05 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 8945 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9115 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9319 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9383 6229 0 21:41 pts/0 00:00:00 grep pmie > 5. output from: ls -l /var/tmp/pmie [root@latte pmlogger]# ls -l /var/tmp/pmie total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 24 23:35 5932 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 8945 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 9115 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 9319 > 6. output from: pmie_check -V > [root@latte pmlogger]# /usr/share/pcp/bin/pmie_check -V Check pmie -h latte.harvard.edu -l /var/log/pcp/pmie/latte.harvard.edu/pmie.log ... No current pmie process exists for: host = latte.harvard.edu log file = /var/log/pcp/pmie/latte.harvard.edu/pmie.log Restarting pmie for host "latte.harvard.edu" ... + pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l /var/log/pcp/pmie/latte.harvard.edu/pmie.log -c pmie_config.localhost... [process 9908] . done > 7. output from: pminfo -f pmcd.pmie Attached > 8. output from: ps -ef | grep pmie root 5932 1 0 Nov24 ? 00:00:05 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 8945 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9115 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9319 1 0 21:40 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9908 1 0 21:47 ? 00:00:00 pmie -b -h latte.harvard.edu -l root 9965 6229 0 21:48 pts/0 00:00:00 grep p > 9. output from: ls -l /var/tmp/pmie [root@latte pmlogger]# ls -l /var/tmp/pmie/ total 5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 24 23:35 5932 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 8945 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 9115 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:40 9319 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8292 Nov 26 21:47 9908 > Thanks. > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Micah Altman wrote: > > > > > Under RH 6.2 and PCP 2.2.1... > > > > When /var/log/pcp is a symbolic link, pmie_check fails to detect that a > > pmie process exists, even when it already running, and starts another > > one. This leads to an accumulation of pmie processes and eventually to > > proc-table overflow. > > > > The is a patch for pmie_check that eliminates the problem of pmie_check > > failing to detect run. The fix works for our case, but is probably > > incorrect -- so please consider it an illustration. The problem seems to > > be that the symlink makes $logfile <> $p_logfile when they both, in fact, > > refer to the same file. > > > > > > *** /usr/share/pcp/bin/pmie_check Sun Aug 12 00:44:16 2001 > > --- pmie_check Sun Nov 25 23:50:38 2001 > > *************** > > *** 1,4 **** > > ! #! /bin/sh > > #Tag 0x00010D13 > > # > > # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > > --- 1,4 ---- > > ! #! /bin/sh > > #Tag 0x00010D13 > > # > > # Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > > *************** > > *** 473,479 **** > > NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > > NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > > { next }'` > > ! if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] > > then > > pid=$p_id > > break > > --- 473,481 ---- > > NR == 2 { printf "p_logfile=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > > NR == 3 { printf "p_pmcd_host=\"%s\"\n", $0; next } > > { next }'` > > ! > > ! ##if [ "$p_logfile" = $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] > > ! if [ $logfile -a "$p_pmcd_host" = "$fqdn" ] # fixes problem when /var/log/pcp is a symlink , but not sure if it's correct > > then > > pid=$p_id > > break > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Micah Altman, Ph.D. Associate Director, Harvard-MIT Data Center > > Director, Virtual Data Center Project, Harvard U. Library > > Research Associate, Center for Basic Research in the Social Science, > > Faculty of Arts & Sciences, Harvard University > > micah_altman@harvard.edu http://data.fas.harvard.edu/micah_altman/ > > "Entia non sunt multiplicanda sine necessitate" - Doctor Invincibilis > > ("Ad indicia spectate." - Micah's corollary) > > Disclaimer: This is an unofficial, unsigned, document. (Copyright 2001) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ Micah Altman, Ph.D. Associate Director, Harvard-MIT Data Center Director, Virtual Data Center Project, Harvard U. Library Research Associate, Center for Basic Research in the Social Science, Faculty of Arts & Sciences, Harvard University micah_altman@harvard.edu http://data.fas.harvard.edu/micah_altman/ "Entia non sunt multiplicanda sine necessitate" - Doctor Invincibilis ("Ad indicia spectate." - Micah's corollary) Disclaimer: This is an unofficial, unsigned, document. 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Pete __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1