From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Thu Jul 6 14:42:20 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:42:01 -0700 Received: from jerry.pcisys.net ([207.76.102.251]:14473 "EHLO jerry.pcisys.net") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:41:57 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (csd107.cos.pcisys.net [207.204.7.107]) by jerry.pcisys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12063; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Brian Hall Organization: Compaq From: Brian Hall To: "Matt D. Robinson" Subject: RE: LKCD for 2.3: Update Cc: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing I'd love to test the Alpha version... On 29-Jun-2000 Matt D. Robinson wrote: > Hi, all. I have a patch available for the 2.3 tree, although it > needs some testing. If people are willing to try it out, crash > their systems, run 'lcrash', etc., with it, and let myself and > Tom know how well it is or is not working, I can send the patch > to people individually. > > The code has changed a little; we now use kiobufs directly, and > we don't require the raw I/O patches from SGI. We also work on > IDE disks, which is really nice for IA32 systems. > > I'm working on the Alpha version, and trying to debug one problem > I have currently in the code (compression turned on seems to cause > occasional data offset problems in the dump). But with that > excluded, there is a patch ready for test. > > Let me know what you think. > > --Matt -- From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Mon Jul 10 13:25:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:25:21 -0700 Received: from jerry.pcisys.net ([207.76.102.251]:9104 "EHLO jerry.pcisys.net") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:24:55 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (csd107.cos.pcisys.net [207.204.7.107]) by jerry.pcisys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21291; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:24:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Brian Hall Organization: Compaq From: Brian Hall To: "Matt D. Robinson" Subject: RE: LKCD for 2.3: Update Cc: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing After applying the second lkcd.patch.07.10.00, I started building the patched 2.3.99pre9 kernel on my Alpha. Compilation fails in lcrash; code looks like a (sortof) copy from the ia64 side, I assume this lcrash isn't supposed to work yet? Are you just not building Alpha lcrash for now and only testing the dump routines? On 29-Jun-2000 Matt D. Robinson wrote: > I'm working on the Alpha version, and trying to debug one problem > I have currently in the code (compression turned on seems to cause > occasional data offset problems in the dump). But with that > excluded, there is a patch ready for test. -- From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Fri Jul 14 10:09:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:09:42 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:30227 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:09:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09987 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:09:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: Current LKCD Status ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing The 2.3 code is pretty close to being complete. If you want to get the latest version, go to: https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2726 The crash dump portion is working, I'm making modularizing it today, and 'lcrash' is 98% done (there are a couple of kinks to iron out for stack traces, but nothing major). We'll try to release a patch by next Tuesday. This is just a heads-up for everyone. --Matt From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Fri Jul 14 14:10:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:10:13 -0700 Received: from jerry.pcisys.net ([207.76.102.251]:16798 "EHLO jerry.pcisys.net") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:10:08 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (cosdsl74.pci2.cos.pcisys.net [216.229.43.74]) by jerry.pcisys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00108; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Brian Hall Organization: Compaq From: Brian Hall To: "Matt D. Robinson" Subject: get_current for Alpha LKCD Cc: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing The 2.3 Alpha lkcd compiled but didn't link, since get_current() wasn't defined for Alpha. Here is the definition I used for my 2.2 version, add it to the end of /usr/src/linux-2.3.99pre9/include/asm-alpha/vmdump.h: #define get_current() \ ({ \ register unsigned long sp; \ asm("bis $30,$30,%0" : "=r" (sp)); \ sp; \ }) -- From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Mon Jul 17 14:47:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:47:02 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:2570 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:46:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06518; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:45:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: Josh Huber cc: almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch, Tigran Aivazian , Matt Robinson , lkcd@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: dump device In-Reply-To: <20000706114407.A820@mclx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Josh Huber wrote: |>On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 09:23:39AM +0200, almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch wrote: |>> > http://www.missioncriticallinux.com/technology/coredump/ |>> |>> This is roughly the concept that we've discussed. I didn't look at their |>> current implementation, so there may be some differences. (My current |> |>This isn't how our current implementation works. Originally, we used a |>disk-based system that wrote the dump to a swap partition. |> |>Currently we're using an in-memory system that saves the dump in a |>compressed form to memory, reboots the system (using bootimg on Intel), and |>writes it to disk on boot via a init script. |> |>This system is working well -- the only issues we're having is with SMP and |>video on Intel. I'd recommend looking at LKCD (Linux Kernel Crash Dumps). We are currently finishing up the 2.3/2.4 port (which will work on devices that support kiobufs, and will be a loadable module, and might end up being backported to 2.2 at this stage). You can get the latest code base from the CVS tree: https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2726 ... the base SourceForge LKCD effort is found at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lkcd/ ... and the main web page for LKCD is at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/ We're also trying to finish up an Alpha port, and we're working on an IA64 version. If you have any questions about this effort, send me an E-mail, and I'll be glad to help out. --Matt P.S. I'll try to release a patch in the next couple of days ... it'll be against 2.3.99-pre9 for now ... From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Tue Jul 18 16:10:27 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:10:17 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:49420 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21439; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com cc: Matt Robinson Subject: LKCD 2.3 Ready ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing Hi, everyone. Looks like all the 2.3 work for x86 is complete. If you want to grab it, it's on SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2726 I'll build a patch sometime later today. BTW, I've converted it so it can build as a module, although it isn't working 100% yet (as there are MANY things to fix to make this work from an analyzer standpoint -- for example, building stack traces without frame pointers for addresses not in the kernel). Anyway, if you want to check out the latest, go for it. I'll put out something on LKML very soon, but I wanted to give the people on this list a heads-up. Brian, you'll need to pick up the latest stuff, as it changes the architecture specific stuff (just slightly), in order to work as a module. Just an FYI ... Thanks, everyone. --Matt From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Tue Jul 18 18:07:38 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:07:28 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:5949 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:06:57 -0700 Received: from larry.melbourne.sgi.com (larry.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.52.130]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id RAA13034 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:58:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kaos@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com) Received: from kao2.melbourne.sgi.com (kao2.melbourne.sgi.com [134.14.55.180]) by larry.melbourne.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA09983 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:05:12 +1000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 From: Keith Owens To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: LKCD 2.3 Ready ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:05 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:05:12 +1000 Message-ID: <1454.963968712@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:05 -0700 (PDT), "Matt D. Robinson" wrote: >(as there are MANY things to fix to make this work from an >analyzer standpoint -- for example, building stack traces without >frame pointers for addresses not in the kernel). kdb v1.3 has code that handles stack traces without frame pointers, both for kernel and modules. It is extremely ugly due to all the special cases in the x86 code but it does work. From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Tue Jul 18 23:28:30 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:28:20 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:31251 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:27:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32420; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:26:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: Keith Owens cc: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: LKCD 2.3 Ready ... In-Reply-To: <1454.963968712@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing We may migrate portions of it in -- I doubt we'll pull over the exact code, but the logic would be useful. I realize it'll be supremely ugly, but it should be done. --Matt On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Keith Owens wrote: |>On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:09:05 -0700 (PDT), |>"Matt D. Robinson" wrote: |>>(as there are MANY things to fix to make this work from an |>>analyzer standpoint -- for example, building stack traces without |>>frame pointers for addresses not in the kernel). |> |>kdb v1.3 has code that handles stack traces without frame pointers, |>both for kernel and modules. It is extremely ugly due to all the |>special cases in the x86 code but it does work. |> From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sat Jul 29 19:39:14 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:38:54 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:59652 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:38:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA31703 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:38:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:38:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Linux Kernel Crash Dumps version 2.0.1 for 2.3 Kernels Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing The 2.0.1 version of the Linux Kernel Crash Dumps (LKCD) project is now available -- this version applies to 2.3.99-pre9 kernels, and includes some of Stephen Tweedie's patches for kiobufs (since we need them). LKCD provides systems with the ability to save a system crash dump when the kernel has a panic or exception, and saves the memory to your swap space, recovering it on reboot, and creating a crash dump report which can be sent to support personnel (or groups like 'lkml', if necessary). Feel free to download our current patch from: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/download/2.0.1 You can also look at and contribute to the source project on SourceForge. The project's CVS location is at: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=lkcd And as always, information about LKCD, including news, an FAQ, etc., can be found at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/ A few points to note: - The x86 version works great, but we're still working on the Alpha and IA-64 ports. They're coming along, however ... keep reading the LKCD News page for updates. Thanks to Brian Hall for his help with the Alpha port. - While you can build the vmdump code as a *module*, and it works, for now just build the vmdump code directly into the kernel -- the reason is because we still have to build the ability to perform stack traces when the code goes through a module. (And that will take some time to complete, as it's kind of ugly to do ...) - We are no longer limited to SCSI devices, like we were with the 2.2 kernel version. We're going to try to backport the 2.3 changes into 2.2, so we have a universal version. If you have any other questions, please send me an E-mail, or review the FAQ on the oss.sgi.com web site. Thanks. --Matt From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sun Jul 30 17:29:30 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:29:21 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:22284 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:29:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16519 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:29:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: LKCD - Latest patch information ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing Just an FYI, I found something in the alpha version that was bogus in my latest patch. I'll clean it up and make a 2.0.2 on Monday. I'm in the middle of backporting the 2.3 changes to 2.2 this weekend. --Matt On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Matt D. Robinson wrote: |>The 2.0.1 version of the Linux Kernel Crash Dumps (LKCD) project is now |>available -- this version applies to 2.3.99-pre9 kernels, and includes |>some of Stephen Tweedie's patches for kiobufs (since we need them). |> |>LKCD provides systems with the ability to save a system crash dump when |>the kernel has a panic or exception, and saves the memory to your swap |>space, recovering it on reboot, and creating a crash dump report which |>can be sent to support personnel (or groups like 'lkml', if necessary). |> |>Feel free to download our current patch from: |> |>http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/download/2.0.1 |> |>You can also look at and contribute to the source project on SourceForge. |>The project's CVS location is at: |> |>http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=lkcd |> |>And as always, information about LKCD, including news, an FAQ, etc., |>can be found at: |> |>http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/ |> |>A few points to note: |> |>- The x86 version works great, but we're still working on the Alpha and |> IA-64 ports. They're coming along, however ... keep reading the LKCD |> News page for updates. Thanks to Brian Hall for his help with the |> Alpha port. |> |>- While you can build the vmdump code as a *module*, and it works, for now |> just build the vmdump code directly into the kernel -- the reason is |> because we still have to build the ability to perform stack traces when |> the code goes through a module. (And that will take some time to |> complete, as it's kind of ugly to do ...) |> |>- We are no longer limited to SCSI devices, like we were with the 2.2 |> kernel version. We're going to try to backport the 2.3 changes into |> 2.2, so we have a universal version. |> |>If you have any other questions, please send me an E-mail, or review |>the FAQ on the oss.sgi.com web site. Thanks. |> |>--Matt |> From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sun Jul 30 17:45:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:45:11 -0700 Received: from hermes.mixx.net ([212.84.196.2]:3845 "HELO hermes.mixx.net") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:45:04 -0700 Received: from mate.bln.innominate.de (cerberus.innominate.de [212.84.234.251]) by hermes.mixx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D8EF87A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mate.bln.innominate.de (Postfix, from userid 9) id 872592CAB4; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:45:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Graichen Reply-To: Thomas Graichen X-Newsgroups: innominate.bln.list.sgi.lkcd Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux Kernel Crash Dumps version 2.0.1 for 2.3 Kernels Date: 31 Jul 2000 00:45:01 GMT Organization: innominate AG, Berlin, Germany Lines: 16 Distribution: local Message-ID: References: Reply-To: thomas.graichen@innominate.de X-Trace: mate.bln.innominate.de 965004301 7336 10.0.0.69 (31 Jul 2000 00:45:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@innominate.de User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16-local (i586)) To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing "Matt D. Robinson" wrote: > - The x86 version works great, but we're still working on the Alpha and > IA-64 ports. They're coming along, however ... keep reading the LKCD > News page for updates. Thanks to Brian Hall for his help with the > Alpha port. anybody working on other arches (sparc, ppc, ...) ? t -- thomas.graichen@innominate.de technical director innominate AG clustering & security networking people fon: +49.30.308806-13 fax: -77 web: http://innominate.de pgp: /pgp/tgr From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Sun Jul 30 17:53:41 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:53:31 -0700 Received: from mail.turbolinux.com ([38.170.88.25]:37644 "EHLO mail.turbolinux.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:53:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by mail.turbolinux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16847; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:53:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:53:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt D. Robinson" To: Thomas Graichen cc: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux Kernel Crash Dumps version 2.0.1 for 2.3 Kernels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing Not right now -- A) we don't have hardware, B) there's the IA64 stuff to worry about, and C) I need to push for acceptance, which means molding the code to fit into something Linus can agree with. Of course, you're more than welcome to jump right in ... :) The more, the merrier, IMHO. --Matt On 31 Jul 2000, Thomas Graichen wrote: |>"Matt D. Robinson" wrote: |> |>> - The x86 version works great, but we're still working on the Alpha and |>> IA-64 ports. They're coming along, however ... keep reading the LKCD |>> News page for updates. Thanks to Brian Hall for his help with the |>> Alpha port. |> |>anybody working on other arches (sparc, ppc, ...) ? |> |>t |> |>-- |>thomas.graichen@innominate.de |>technical director innominate AG |>clustering & security networking people |>fon: +49.30.308806-13 fax: -77 web: http://innominate.de pgp: /pgp/tgr From owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Mon Jul 31 14:22:01 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:21:51 -0700 Received: from leo.pcisys.net ([207.76.102.240]:23463 "EHLO leo.pcisys.net") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:21:36 -0700 Received: from pcisys.net (cosdsl21.pci1.cos.pcisys.net [216.229.33.21]) by leo.pcisys.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) via SMTP id e6VLJUh26262 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:19:30 -0600 (MDT) env-from (brihall@bigfoot.com) Received: by pcisys.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:21:38 -0600 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Brian Hall Organization: Compaq From: Brian Hall To: lkcd@oss.sgi.com Subject: Compaq discontinuing Alpha LKCD development Sender: owner-lkcd@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;lkcd-outgoing I found out this morning that upper management has directed that Alpha Linux LKCD and related work on Linux crash tools be stopped as a cost cutting measure. This directly impacts me, since that was my job and my contract is up in just over a week. Needless to say I am disappointed at this shortsightedness. I wonder if they considered that they are basically handing this market to Mission Critical Linux when they made this choice. No doubt they'll regret it in a couple of years when the Linux marketshare is too big to ignore. I'll be returning my AlphaStation tomorrow, but I will continue to use LKCD on my i386 platforms. I do have a suggestion, that LKCD releases be announced on freshmeat.net, especially considering that the Intel branch work is so close to being complete. --