From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 7 01:35:16 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28225 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:35:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28222 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:35:15 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id DAA28336 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id DAA02411 for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:35:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909070835.DAA02411@clink.cray.com> Subject: Welcome! To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:35:10 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, I would like to personally welcome you all to the world of Jessie! Please feel free to send us whatever comments, suggestions, complaints or brilliant ideas you may have about Jessie. A coupla questions, * Has everyone been able to get it working, inspite of not having convenient automagic install stuff (i.e. RPM's)? * Has anyone tried building it from scratch? Again, welcome! -Dean Johnson Tools Hooligan Jessie Project SGI Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 7 15:21:24 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29545 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:21:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29542 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:21:23 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id RAA13356 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id RAA47962 for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909072221.RAA47962@clink.cray.com> Subject: Welcome! To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:20 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, I would like to personally welcome you all to the world of Jessie! Please feel free to send us whatever comments, suggestions, complaints or brilliant ideas you may have about Jessie. A coupla questions, * Has everyone been able to get it working, inspite of not having convenient automagic install stuff (i.e. RPM's)? * Has anyone tried building it from scratch? Again, welcome! -Dean Johnson Tools Hooligan Jessie Project SGI Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Thu Sep 9 09:53:52 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00457 for jessie-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:53:52 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00453 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:53:51 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id LAA18245 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:53:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id LAA11617 for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:53:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909091653.LAA11617@clink.cray.com> Subject: Another test To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:53:55 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, This is just a test to see if the mailing list is working correctly. Please delete. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Mon Sep 20 13:37:37 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28755 for jessie-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:37:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28752 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:37:36 -0700 Received: from ironwood-e185.cray.com (ironwood-e185.cray.com [128.162.185.212]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA15684 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:37:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (dtj@sgi.com) Received: from palm-fddi.cray.com (dtj@palm-fddi [128.162.21.50]) by ironwood-e185.cray.com (8.8.4/ASC-news-e1.0) with ESMTP id PAA16805 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:35:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Received: by palm-fddi.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-client.1.6) id PAA10149; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199909202035.PAA10149@palm-fddi.cray.com> Subject: Welcome! To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:35:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, In case you haven't seen it, the Jessie team has converted to CVS and the latest and greatest source is available. Instructions for grabbing it are located at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/jessie/latest.html we are still working come kinks out of the CVS setup, so please report any strangeness to jessie@sgi.com. Thanks for your interest in Jessie! -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project SGI Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Mon Sep 20 16:51:12 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29974 for jessie-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:51:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29971 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:51:11 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id SAA10472 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id SAA84645 for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:52:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909202352.SAA84645@clink.cray.com> Subject: Welcome! To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:52:11 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, In case you haven't seen it, the Jessie team has converted to CVS and the latest and greatest source is available. Instructions for grabbing it are located at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/jessie/latest.html we are still working come kinks out of the CVS setup, so please report any strangeness to jessie@sgi.com. Thanks for your interest in Jessie! -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project SGI Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 05:08:35 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25515 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 05:08:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from o2ventes.bagh.com ([207.219.75.196]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25512 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 05:08:33 -0700 Received: from bagh.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by o2ventes.bagh.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA02484 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37E79801.299E6319@bagh.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:36:49 -0400 From: jeremy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: linux and the 320 with jessie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk I'd like to know how to install jessie with the red hat version of linux on my 320??? Jeremie From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 06:16:57 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA26018 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:16:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from ais.ais.cz (ais.ais.cz [194.228.2.201]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26011 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:16:50 -0700 Received: from banan.ais.cz (ais-gw.ais.cz [194.228.2.202]) by ais.ais.cz (8.8.7/AIS_Software) with ESMTP id NAA19834 Received: from internal host by internal net ais.cz (8.8.7/AIS_Software); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:16:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:16:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Petr Srajer To: jeremy cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: linux and the 320 with jessie In-Reply-To: <37E79801.299E6319@bagh.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, jeremy wrote: > I'd like to know how to install jessie with the red hat version of linux > on my 320??? > > Jeremie > Hi, I've stupid question. What is "320???". Petr. From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 08:46:32 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27290 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:46:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27286 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:46:27 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id KAA22445; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id KAA07385; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:47:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909211547.KAA07385@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: linux and the 320 with jessie In-Reply-To: <37E79801.299E6319@bagh.com> from jeremy at "Sep 21, 99 10:36:49 am" To: jeremy@bagh.com (jeremy) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:47:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk jeremy writes: > > I'd like to know how to install jessie with the red hat version of linux > on my 320??? > It should be a standard install with RedHat 6.0, as I understand it. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 08:54:55 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27376 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:54:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27373 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:54:54 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id KAA22629; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id KAA11774; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:55:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909211555.KAA11774@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: linux and the 320 with jessie In-Reply-To: from Petr Srajer at "Sep 21, 99 03:16:12 pm" To: psrajer@ais.cz (Petr Srajer) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:55:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jeremy@bagh.com, jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Petr Srajer spontaneously blurts out: > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, jeremy wrote: > > > I'd like to know how to install jessie with the red hat version of linux > > on my 320??? > > > > Jeremie > > > > Hi, > > I've stupid question. What is "320???". > Best explained by http://visual.sgi.com/ -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 10:18:54 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27875 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:18:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from o2ventes.bagh.com ([207.219.75.196]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27872 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:18:53 -0700 Received: from bagh.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by o2ventes.bagh.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA03071; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37E7E0B4.40A4184E@bagh.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:47:00 -0400 From: jeremy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Johnson CC: Petr Srajer , jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: linux and the 320 with jessie References: <199909211555.KAA11774@clink.cray.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk > > Best explained by http://visual.sgi.com/ > > -Dean Johnson > Tool Hooligan > Jessie Project > Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 > > --- I've tried this so many time on different config of 320.. and it doesn't work Jeremie From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 21 11:23:27 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28200 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:23:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28196 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:23:19 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id NAA25887; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:24:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id NAA50926; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:24:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909211824.NAA50926@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: linux and the 320 with jessie In-Reply-To: <37E7E0B4.40A4184E@bagh.com> from jeremy at "Sep 21, 99 03:47:00 pm" To: jeremy@bagh.com (jeremy) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:24:21 -0500 (CDT) Cc: dtj@sgi.com, psrajer@ais.cz, jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk jeremy writes: > > I've tried this so many time on different config of 320.. and it doesn't work > Check out http://www.linux.sgi.com/intel/visws/rh60.html it has pretty detailed instructions. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 02:13:05 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03992 for jessie-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:13:05 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from pythagoras.aegean.gr (pythagoras.aegean.gr [195.251.160.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03989 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:13:02 -0700 Received: by pythagoras.aegean.gr with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:20 +0300 Message-ID: From: Nikitopoulos Theodoros To: "'jessie@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: Acme: A User Interface for Programmers Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:13 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by oss.sgi.com id CAA03990 Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Dear folks, I have used Jessie for a while. As it's still in an early development cycle I would like to mention Acme, a user interface for programmers originally implemented by Rob Pike. As it is mentioned in a related paper ... ``The usual typescript style of interaction with Unix and its relatives is an old one. The typescript­an intermingling of textual commands and their output­originates with the scrolls of paper on teletypes. The advent of windowed terminals has given each user what amounts to an array of teletypes, a limited and unimaginative use of the powers of bitmap displays and mice. Systems like the Macintosh that do involve the mouse as an integral part of the interaction are geared towards general users, not experts, and certainly not programmers. Software developers, at least on time-sharing systems, have been left behind''. ( http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/doc/acme.html ) Although, Acme supposed to consist as an internal part of Plan 9 (a Bell Labs operating system designed in the early 90's) this specific project seems to be discontinued nowadays. Maybe Jessie could benefit by their design in some of its aspects. Regards, Theodore. From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 10:16:28 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05209 for jessie-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:16:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05206 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:16:26 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id MAA24881; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id MAA50047; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:17:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909241717.MAA50047@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: Acme: A User Interface for Programmers In-Reply-To: from Nikitopoulos Theodoros at "Sep 24, 99 12:15:13 pm" To: s92035@math.aegean.gr (Nikitopoulos Theodoros) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:17:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Nikitopoulos Theodoros spontaneously blurts out: > > Maybe Jessie could benefit by their design in some of its aspects. > Thanks for the pointer! While I looked at it quickly, my mind has quite got wrapped around it yet. Complexity is the bugaboo of serious debugging and any precedents for problem solving are a good thing. In the development of Jessie (and its predecessor Nessie), we often backed off and asked to "what would netscape do?" or "how would Quicken do it?". Whether or not you like these products, they are standards for user interface interaction for the masses. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 11:09:35 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05634 for jessie-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:09:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from reno.cis.upenn.edu (IDENT:rahul@RENO.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.12.156]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05631 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:09:33 -0700 Received: (from rahul@localhost) by reno.cis.upenn.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA28389; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:11:40 -0400 From: Rahul Dave Message-Id: <199909241811.OAA28389@reno.cis.upenn.edu> Subject: Re: Acme: A User Interface for Programmers To: dtj@sgi.com (Dean Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: s92035@math.aegean.gr, jessie@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199909241717.MAA50047@clink.cray.com> from "Dean Johnson" at Sep 24, 99 12:17:31 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk There is a Unix implementation of acme called wily, uses athena widgets(ugh) but is heavily extendable using scripting languages like python and tcl, and executes any string selected is you use the right mouse button, and opens it if middle mouse button. The meanings of execute and open are context dependent, and could be folders and programs. While we are throwing around ideas, jpython could be used to extend jessie for scripting of debugging activities. Jpython allows python access to java classes with NO additional code. A set of classes-methods would have to be identified in jessie as being useful for scripting, and public methods from there will be accessible to python.(see www.jpython.org). Rahul I got this from you: > > Nikitopoulos Theodoros spontaneously blurts out: > > > > Maybe Jessie could benefit by their design in some of its aspects. > > > > Thanks for the pointer! While I looked at it quickly, my mind has quite > got wrapped around it yet. Complexity is the bugaboo of serious debugging > and any precedents for problem solving are a good thing. In the development > of Jessie (and its predecessor Nessie), we often backed off and asked to > "what would netscape do?" or "how would Quicken do it?". Whether or not > you like these products, they are standards for user interface interaction > for the masses. > > -Dean Johnson > Tool Hooligan > Jessie Project > Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 11:22:23 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05788 for jessie-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:22:23 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05781 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:22:20 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id NAA26089; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:23:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id NAA10278; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:23:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909241823.NAA10278@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: Acme: A User Interface for Programmers In-Reply-To: <199909241811.OAA28389@reno.cis.upenn.edu> from Rahul Dave at "Sep 24, 99 02:11:40 pm" To: rahul@reno.cis.upenn.edu (Rahul Dave) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:23:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: dtj@sgi.com, s92035@math.aegean.gr, jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Rahul Dave writes: > > While we are throwing around ideas, jpython could be used to extend jessie > for scripting of debugging activities. Jpython allows python access to java > classes with NO additional code. A set of classes-methods would have to be > identified in jessie as being useful for scripting, and public methods > from there will be accessible to python.(see www.jpython.org). > As a matter of fact, Jessie's predecessor Nessie (C++ and ViewKit) used an embedded python for its scripting. For instance, when you hit a breakpoint, you have it run a python script. I saw this as a great thing because you could put *real* analytics in your conditional breakpoints. It was our target to make nearly everything, including GUI setup, done in python. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Sat Sep 25 08:49:13 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07774 for jessie-outgoing; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:49:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07771 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:49:12 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id KAA07250 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:50:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id KAA84604 for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:50:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909251550.KAA84604@clink.cray.com> Subject: Syntax Coloring To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:50:34 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Howdy all, What languages are you interested in having syntax coloring work for in Jessie? -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Sun Sep 26 15:19:00 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09655 for jessie-outgoing; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:19:00 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@tollfree1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.8.48]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09652 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:18:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (goodale@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01137 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:47:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: goodale owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:47:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Tom Goodale X-Sender: goodale@localhost.localdomain To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Syntax Coloring In-Reply-To: <199909251550.KAA84604@clink.cray.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hi, C, C++, Fortran, Java would be nice. Tom On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Dean Johnson wrote: > Howdy all, > What languages are you interested in having syntax coloring work for in Jessie? > > -Dean Johnson > Tool Hooligan > Jessie Project > Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Sun Sep 26 15:48:04 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09701 for jessie-outgoing; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:48:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from www.salsgiver.com (www.salsgiver.com [206.67.234.10]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09698 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:48:04 -0700 Received: from terminat (bear-slot11-mod1.salsgiver.com [208.248.108.142]) by www.salsgiver.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA23184 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001501bf0871$5d9c1520$8e6cf8d0@terminat> From: "David Benigni" To: References: Subject: Re: Syntax Coloring Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:49:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk C, C++ is a must. David Benigni terminat@salsgiver.com From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Sun Sep 26 16:11:33 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09736 for jessie-outgoing; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:11:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09732 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:11:33 -0700 Received: from alecto.bittwiddlers.com (216-164-138-29.s29.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.138.29]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26651 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10068 invoked by uid 48381); 26 Sep 1999 23:12:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:12:59 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Syntax Coloring Message-ID: <19990926191259.A10060@bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk : C, C++, Fortran, Java : would be nice. Those are also the ones I would prefer seeing. -- Matthew Harrell Nondeterminism means never Bit Twiddlers, Inc. having to say you are wrong. mharrell@bittwiddlers.com From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 01:18:46 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10523 for jessie-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:18:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10520 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:18:45 -0700 Received: from ironwood-e185.cray.com ([128.162.185.212]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA2821965 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:20:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (dtj@sgi.com) Received: from palm-fddi.cray.com (dtj@palm-fddi [128.162.21.50]) by ironwood-e185.cray.com (8.8.4/ASC-news-e1.0) with ESMTP id DAA00929 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:16:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Received: by palm-fddi.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-client.1.6) id DAA17468; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199909270816.DAA17468@palm-fddi.cray.com> Subject: You asked for it, you got it! To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:16:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Howdy all, Now appearing in the CVS version of Jessie, Perl and Fortran syntax coloring. Caveats to the Fortran coloring, support isn't fully there (I have to do more investigation and testing) and it is the simple-minded coloring that doesn't understand that users can legally put spaces in keywords or virtually any other place they like. A question to the list, what suffixes do you use for Perl and Fortran? I have looking for '.pl' for Perl and (.f,.F,.f77) for Fortran. Can someone please send me the keywords, etc. for Fortran 90? -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 04:44:19 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11021 for jessie-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:44:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11018 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:44:18 -0700 Received: from alecto.bittwiddlers.com (216-164-128-167.s167.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.128.167]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id HAA03631 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6893 invoked by uid 48381); 27 Sep 1999 11:45:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:45:46 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: You asked for it, you got it! Message-ID: <19990927074546.A6858@bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk : A question to the list, what suffixes do you use for Perl and Fortran? I have : looking for '.pl' for Perl and (.f,.F,.f77) for Fortran. You might also add .pm for Perl -- Matthew Harrell Welcome to All Things Unix, Bit Twiddlers, Inc. where if it's not Unix, mharrell@bittwiddlers.com it's CRAP! From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 06:16:34 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11268 for jessie-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:16:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from osc.edu (atlantis.osc.edu [192.148.249.4]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11265 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:16:34 -0700 Received: from paladin.osc.edu (paladin.osc.edu [192.148.249.56]) by osc.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/OSC 1.1) with ESMTP id JAA15261; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:18:06 -0400 From: Troy Baer To: Dean Johnson cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Syntax Coloring In-Reply-To: <199909251550.KAA84604@clink.cray.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Dean Johnson wrote: > What languages are you interested in having syntax coloring work for > in Jessie? I think our top picks would be C, C++, and Fortran 90. Fortran 77 and Java would be nice, too. --Troy -- Troy Baer email: troy@osc.edu Science & Technology Support phone: 614-292-9701 Ohio Supercomputer Center web: http://oscinfo.osc.edu From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Tue Sep 28 06:30:20 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA14089 for jessie-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:30:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14086 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:30:19 -0700 Received: from alecto.bittwiddlers.com (207-172-50-121.s375.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.50.121]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29421 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16837 invoked by uid 48381); 28 Sep 1999 13:31:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:31:50 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: Jessie List Subject: Compilation problem Message-ID: <19990928093150.A16714@bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone else seen this attached error? I get it with either JDK 1.1.7v1a or 1.1.7v3 under Linux 2.2.12-SMP. -- Matthew Harrell All science is either physics or Bit Twiddlers, Inc. stamp collecting. mharrell@bittwiddlers.com --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=output (cd base ; make generate_debug) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/base' sed 's/boolean JDEBUG = [a-z]*/boolean JDEBUG = false/' Debug.java > _jessie_debug.tmp chmod 644 Debug.java mv _jessie_debug.tmp Debug.java chmod 444 Debug.java make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/base' (cd datastruct ; make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/datastruct' javac DList.java make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/datastruct' (cd utils ; make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/utils' javac FilUtl.java javah -jni utils.FilUtl make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/utils' (cd server ; make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/server' javac Server.java javah -jni server.Server make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/server' (cd gnu_regexp ; make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/gnu_regexp' javac CharIndexed.java javac CharIndexedCharArray.java javac CharIndexedInputStream.java javac CharIndexedString.java javac CharIndexedStringBuffer.java javac REMatch.java javac REToken.java javac RESyntax.java javac REException.java javac RETokenAny.java javac RETokenBackRef.java javac RETokenChar.java javac RETokenPOSIX.java javac RETokenRange.java javac RETokenRepeated.java javac RE.java javac REFilterInputStream.java make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/gnu_regexp' (cd panels ; make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels' (cd locals ; make all) make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels/locals' javac LocalEntryObj.java javac LocalVariablesPanel.java sun.tools.java.CompilerError: invalid slot: 0: aload -1 at sun.tools.asm.Instruction.size(Instruction.java) at sun.tools.asm.Assembler.write(Assembler.java) at sun.tools.javac.SourceClass.compileClass(SourceClass.java) at sun.tools.javac.SourceClass.compile(SourceClass.java) at sun.tools.javac.Main.compile(Main.java) at sun.tools.javac.Main.main(Main.java) error: An error has occurred in the compiler; please file a bug report (http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi). 1 error make[2]: *** [LocalVariablesPanel.class] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels/locals' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels' make: *** [all] Error 2 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 05:14:20 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16690 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:14:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16687 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:14:19 -0700 Received: from alecto.bittwiddlers.com (216-164-128-55.s55.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.128.55]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id IAA14454 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5742 invoked by uid 48381); 29 Sep 1999 12:15:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:15:54 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: jessie@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: Compilation problem Message-ID: <19990929081554.A5724@bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk : We are also seeing this problem when using the javac compiler. We : are not seeing it when using the jikes compiler. We are checking : into what we can do to fix the problem or at least get around the : compiler problem. Okay, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Jikes is an IBM product, right? I'll have ti dig that up and give it a try. -- Matthew Harrell Nondeterminism means never Bit Twiddlers, Inc. having to say you are wrong. mharrell@bittwiddlers.com From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 05:12:03 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16683 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:12:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16680 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:11:58 -0700 From: jeg@cray.com Received: from ledzep.cray.com (ledzep.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA09157 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:13:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jeg@cray.com) Received: from lublin.cray.com (lublin.cray.com [128.162.190.63]) by ledzep.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id HAA11744110; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by lublin.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-client.1.2) id MAA75462; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <199909291212.MAA75462@lublin.cray.com> Subject: Re: Compilation problem To: mharrell@bittwiddlers.com (Matthew Harrell) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:12:07 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19990928093150.A16714@bittwiddlers.com> from "Matthew Harrell" at Sep 28, 99 09:31:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-d] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Matthew, We are also seeing this problem when using the javac compiler. We are not seeing it when using the jikes compiler. We are checking into what we can do to fix the problem or at least get around the compiler problem. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jim G. > > > --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Has anyone else seen this attached error? I get it with either JDK 1.1.7v1a > or 1.1.7v3 under Linux 2.2.12-SMP. > > -- > Matthew Harrell All science is either physics or > Bit Twiddlers, Inc. stamp collecting. > mharrell@bittwiddlers.com > > --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=output > > (cd base ; make generate_debug) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/base' > sed 's/boolean JDEBUG = [a-z]*/boolean JDEBUG = false/' Debug.java > _jessie_debug.tmp > chmod 644 Debug.java > mv _jessie_debug.tmp Debug.java > chmod 444 Debug.java > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/base' > (cd datastruct ; make all) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/datastruct' > javac DList.java > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/datastruct' > (cd utils ; make all) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/utils' > javac FilUtl.java > javah -jni utils.FilUtl > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/utils' > (cd server ; make all) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/server' > javac Server.java > javah -jni server.Server > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/server' > (cd gnu_regexp ; make all) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/gnu_regexp' > javac CharIndexed.java > javac CharIndexedCharArray.java > javac CharIndexedInputStream.java > javac CharIndexedString.java > javac CharIndexedStringBuffer.java > javac REMatch.java > javac REToken.java > javac RESyntax.java > javac REException.java > javac RETokenAny.java > javac RETokenBackRef.java > javac RETokenChar.java > javac RETokenPOSIX.java > javac RETokenRange.java > javac RETokenRepeated.java > javac RE.java > javac REFilterInputStream.java > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/gnu_regexp' > (cd panels ; make all) > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels' > (cd locals ; make all) > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels/locals' > javac LocalEntryObj.java > javac LocalVariablesPanel.java > sun.tools.java.CompilerError: invalid slot: 0: aload -1 > at sun.tools.asm.Instruction.size(Instruction.java) > at sun.tools.asm.Assembler.write(Assembler.java) > at sun.tools.javac.SourceClass.compileClass(SourceClass.java) > at sun.tools.javac.SourceClass.compile(SourceClass.java) > at sun.tools.javac.Main.compile(Main.java) > at sun.tools.javac.Main.main(Main.java) > error: An error has occurred in the compiler; please file a bug report (http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi). > 1 error > make[2]: *** [LocalVariablesPanel.class] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels/locals' > make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/jessie/panels' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- > From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 05:21:46 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16705 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:21:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16700 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:21:45 -0700 From: jeg@cray.com Received: from ledzep.cray.com (relay.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA3885569 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:23:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jeg@cray.com) Received: from lublin.cray.com (lublin.cray.com [128.162.190.63]) by ledzep.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id HAA11716600; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by lublin.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-client.1.2) id MAA75821; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:22:11 GMT Message-Id: <199909291222.MAA75821@lublin.cray.com> Subject: Re: Compilation problem To: mharrell@bittwiddlers.com (Matthew Harrell) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:22:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jessie@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19990929081554.A5724@bittwiddlers.com> from "Matthew Harrell" at Sep 29, 99 08:15:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-d] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk > > : We are also seeing this problem when using the javac compiler. We > : are not seeing it when using the jikes compiler. We are checking > : into what we can do to fix the problem or at least get around the > : compiler problem. > > Okay, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Jikes is an IBM product, right? Matthew, Yes jikes is an IBM problem. It really speeds up the compilation process. > I'll have ti dig that up and give it a try. O.k. Jim G. > > -- > Matthew Harrell Nondeterminism means never > Bit Twiddlers, Inc. having to say you are wrong. > mharrell@bittwiddlers.com > From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 06:22:07 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA16892 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:22:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16889 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:22:07 -0700 Received: from clink.cray.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id IAA29762; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:23:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dtj@localhost) by clink.cray.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) id IAA21387; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:23:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Johnson Message-Id: <199909291323.IAA21387@clink.cray.com> Subject: Re: Compilation problem In-Reply-To: <199909291222.MAA75821@lublin.cray.com> from "jeg@sgi.com" at "Sep 29, 99 07:22:10 am" To: jeg@sgi.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: mharrell@bittwiddlers.com, jessie@oss.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk jeg@sgi.com spontaneously blurts out: > > > > Okay, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Jikes is an IBM product, right? > > Matthew, > > Yes jikes is an IBM problem. It really speeds up the compilation > process. > What Jim meant to say is "IBM program", not "IBM problem". Freudian slip, I think not. Jikes is, in practice, 20-40 times faster than javac. It totally blew us away when we first used it and it has proven to be very stable. The source is, of course, available for building on any system. -Dean Johnson Tool Hooligan Jessie Project Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 06:26:01 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA16899 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:26:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16896 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:26:01 -0700 From: jeg@cray.com Received: from ledzep.cray.com (ledzep.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA02030 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:28:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jeg@cray.com) Received: from lublin.cray.com (lublin.cray.com [128.162.190.63]) by ledzep.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id IAA11744149; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: by lublin.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-client.1.2) id NAA78321; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:26:27 GMT Message-Id: <199909291326.NAA78321@lublin.cray.com> Subject: Re: Compilation problem To: dtj@sgi.com (Dean Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:26:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jeg@sgi.com, mharrell@bittwiddlers.com, jessie@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199909291323.IAA21387@clink.cray.com> from "Dean Johnson" at Sep 29, 99 08:23:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24-CRI-d] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Dean, Thanks! I've been working on problems too long!! It's taking over my mind!! Scary!! Jikes is great! Jim G. > > jeg@sgi.com spontaneously blurts out: > > > > > > Okay, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Jikes is an IBM product, right? > > > > Matthew, > > > > Yes jikes is an IBM problem. It really speeds up the compilation > > process. > > > > What Jim meant to say is "IBM program", not "IBM problem". Freudian slip, > I think not. Jikes is, in practice, 20-40 times faster than javac. It > totally blew us away when we first used it and it has proven to be very > stable. The source is, of course, available for building on any system. > > -Dean Johnson > Tool Hooligan > Jessie Project > Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 12:50:42 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17685 for jessie-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:50:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by oss.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17682 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:50:41 -0700 Received: from mischevouslittle.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.167] helo=mischevouslittle) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11WPm4-0008My-0B for jessie@oss.sgi.com; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:52:24 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf0a26$03336c80$a713edc1@mischevouslittle.demon.co.uk> From: "John Jones" To: Subject: Re: Compilation problem & jikes Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 03:54:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-jessie@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk dear all as first post to list surpose I should say who I am I am john born of mister jones I am doing a degree in "Software Engineering Management" (dont comment on the title please) I am currently on placment or internship for a year with ARM (the microprocessor people) I like the java methodology of writeing computer code (-; I am a geek with a life outside of the office (sometimes) I respect other peoples veiws and opinions NOW first of all java and jikes jikes is written in C++ (ik I dont like it but hey people have got very good @ writeing it) jikes executes in native code and not bytecode this makes it fast jikes can do wonderfull things with memory because it is native and VM are memory intensive and slow as buggery to clean up and realocate memory jikes preforms very little optermiseations apon the java to produce bytecode the rational behind this is that the JIT should do this for you and so guess what IBM JIT preforms alot of optermisations and is very fast jikes parser exhibits very stict adherance to the java spec many people use this as a test of code wild speculation follows > the error might be that main is in many parts of the source (as it should be for testing modules) and main proper is not marked as main wild I just thought that I would point out above (exclude dum solution) because people get confused about how jikes might make it faster and it makes it slower if not running a JIT which preforms optermiseations @ runtime my 2p regards john >Dean, > >Thanks! I've been working on problems too long!! It's taking >over my mind!! Scary!! Jikes is great! > >Jim G. > >> >> jeg@sgi.com spontaneously blurts out: >> > > >> > > Okay, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Jikes is an IBM product, right? >> > >> > Matthew, >> > >> > Yes jikes is an IBM problem. It really speeds up the compilation >> > process. >> > >> >> What Jim meant to say is "IBM program", not "IBM problem". Freudian slip, >> I think not. Jikes is, in practice, 20-40 times faster than javac. It >> totally blew us away when we first used it and it has proven to be very >> stable. The source is, of course, available for building on any system. >> >> -Dean Johnson >> Tool Hooligan >> Jessie Project >> Silicon Graphics Inc. Eagan,MN (651) 683-5880 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- >> "I am Dyslexic of Borg, Your Ass will be Laminated" -- unknown >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- >> >