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Hi,

I just tried to build java-fam-0.1 on redhat-9.0 (which ships with fam).
Seems to work (see attached out file [had to add "include/linux" to get
it to work]). Upon running it, i get the following:

[doggy /tmp/tmp2/java-fam-0.1] ./run-example.sh .
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
/tmp/tmp2/java-fam-0.1/src/c/libjavafam.so:
/tmp/tmp2/java-fam-0.1/src/c/libjavafam.so: undefined symbol: FAMOpen2
          at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(ClassLoader.java:1560)
          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1485)
          at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:788)
          at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:834)
          at com.arosii.io.fam.FAM.<clinit>(FAM.java:94)
          at DirectoryMonitor.start(DirectoryMonitor.java:61)
          at DirectoryMonitor.main(DirectoryMonitor.java:118)

I tried this against the fam included in RH9.0 and fam-2.6.10, both to
no avail. Not being a great C/C++ wizard, I'd be thankful for any advice...
Wolfgang.

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Buildfile: build.xml

prepare-build:

build-javac:

build-javah:
    [javah] ClassArgument.name=com.arosii.io.fam.FAM
    [javah] ClassArgument.name=com.arosii.io.fam.FAMConnection
    [javah] ClassArgument.name=com.arosii.io.fam.FAMRequest
    [javah] ClassArgument.name=com.arosii.io.fam.FAMEvent

build-c:
     [exec] make: Entering directory `/tmp/tmp2/java-fam-0.1/src/c'
     [exec] gcc -Wall -I/home/portnoy/u5/hoschek/java/i386_redhat61/jdk/sun-1.4.2/include:I/home/portnoy/u5/hoschek/java/i386_redhat61/jdk/sun-1.4.2/include/linux -c fam-jni.c
     [exec] fam-jni.c: In function `Java_com_arosii_io_fam_FAM__1open':
     [exec] fam-jni.c:87: warning: implicit declaration of function `malloc'
     [exec] fam-jni.c:104: warning: implicit declaration of function `free'
     [exec] gcc -Wall -I/home/portnoy/u5/hoschek/java/i386_redhat61/jdk/sun-1.4.2/include:I/home/portnoy/u5/hoschek/java/i386_redhat61/jdk/sun-1.4.2/include/linux -shared -o libjavafam.so fam-jni.o
     [exec] make: Leaving directory `/tmp/tmp2/java-fam-0.1/src/c'

build:

BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 1 second


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Hi,

I know that the fam library uses rpc messages to connect to the fam daemon.
Is it possible to connect to a fam daemon on a remote machine (i.e., a
machine that is not localhost)?  

From looking at the code, it appears to me that this is not possible, since
FAMOpen2 constructs the client like this:
	fc->client = new Client(LOCALHOSTNUMBER, famnumber, famversion);
where LOCALHOSTNUMER is
	#define LOCALHOSTNUMBER 0x7f000001 // Internet number for loopback.

thanks
dave


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    I'm not that familiar with the code, but I know that the documentation
does talk about the fam daemon contacting fam daemons on other machines to
monitor NFS mounted files.  Therefor fam daemons can talk to each other but
I doubt that clients can do it.  I think one way that the daemon does
security is that it only talks to connections coming from secure port(s).
	    	    	    	     	     		 Michael

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:48:30AM -0800, Viner, David wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know that the fam library uses rpc messages to connect to the fam daemon.
> Is it possible to connect to a fam daemon on a remote machine (i.e., a
> machine that is not localhost)?  
> 
> >From looking at the code, it appears to me that this is not possible, since
> FAMOpen2 constructs the client like this:
> 	fc->client = new Client(LOCALHOSTNUMBER, famnumber, famversion);
> where LOCALHOSTNUMER is
> 	#define LOCALHOSTNUMBER 0x7f000001 // Internet number for loopback.
> 
> thanks
> dave
> 

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You're supposed to be able to monitor NFS mounted files, either by your 
FAM server contacting a remote FAM server, or by polling the files.  
Unfortunately, we weren't able to get either of those options to work 
properly.   ("FAM not notifying of non-local changes on NFS file", 
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/mail_archive/200304/msg00007.html).

If you do get anything like this running, I'd love to know about it, 
because it would be helpful for us!  Thanks.

Michael Raymond wrote:

>    I'm not that familiar with the code, but I know that the documentation
>does talk about the fam daemon contacting fam daemons on other machines to
>monitor NFS mounted files.  Therefor fam daemons can talk to each other but
>I doubt that clients can do it.  I think one way that the daemon does
>security is that it only talks to connections coming from secure port(s).
>	    	    	    	     	     		 Michael
>
>On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:48:30AM -0800, Viner, David wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I know that the fam library uses rpc messages to connect to the fam daemon.
>>Is it possible to connect to a fam daemon on a remote machine (i.e., a
>>machine that is not localhost)?  
>>
>>>From looking at the code, it appears to me that this is not possible, since
>>FAMOpen2 constructs the client like this:
>>	fc->client = new Client(LOCALHOSTNUMBER, famnumber, famversion);
>>where LOCALHOSTNUMER is
>>	#define LOCALHOSTNUMBER 0x7f000001 // Internet number for loopback.
>>
>>thanks
>>dave
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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You're supposed to be able to monitor NFS mounted files, either by your
FAM server contacting a remote FAM server, or by polling the files.&nbsp;
Unfortunately, we weren't able to get either of those options to work
properly.&nbsp;&nbsp; ("FAM not notifying of non-local changes on NFS file",
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/mail_archive/200304/msg00007.html">http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/mail_archive/200304/msg00007.html</a>).<br>
<br>
If you do get anything like this running, I'd love to know about it,
because it would be helpful for us!&nbsp; Thanks.<br>
<br>
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  <pre wrap="">    I'm not that familiar with the code, but I know that the documentation
does talk about the fam daemon contacting fam daemons on other machines to
monitor NFS mounted files.  Therefor fam daemons can talk to each other but
I doubt that clients can do it.  I think one way that the daemon does
security is that it only talks to connections coming from secure port(s).
	    	    	    	     	     		 Michael

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  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Hi,

I know that the fam library uses rpc messages to connect to the fam daemon.
Is it possible to connect to a fam daemon on a remote machine (i.e., a
machine that is not localhost)?  

&gt;From looking at the code, it appears to me that this is not possible, since
FAMOpen2 constructs the client like this:
	fc-&gt;client = new Client(LOCALHOSTNUMBER, famnumber, famversion);
where LOCALHOSTNUMER is
	#define LOCALHOSTNUMBER 0x7f000001 // Internet number for loopback.

thanks
dave

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hi,

    i realize this is an odd request... but can fam run on win32?  i'm not a
huge win32 user, but i do occasionally write some stuff on it, and i'd like
to have all the beauty of fam there too.  does such a thing exist?

thanks
dave


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www.sysinternals.com have a program called filemon which is 
'win32 fam with a gui. It comes with full source.

Stephen.

>     i realize this is an odd request... but can fam run on win32?  i'm not
> a huge win32 user, but i do occasionally write some stuff on it, and i'd like
> to have all the beauty of fam there too.  does such a thing exist?


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Hello,

I'm using an INDY133, running IRIX5.3 and when I try to use the Graphic 
part of SO it said to me "can't connect with /usr/ect/fam" and I can't see 
any window.
For Example, when I try to opne remote or home directory from the toolchest 
IRIX give me that message.


How can I solve this problem?



Thank you
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> I'm using an INDY133, running IRIX5.3 and when I try to use the Graphic
> part of SO it said to me "can't connect with /usr/ect/fam" and I can't see
> any window.
> For Example, when I try to opne remote or home directory from the toolchest
> IRIX give me that message.

5.3, wow!!

There have been some significant changes to fam since 5.3...  (That
might even have been before kbob rewrote it, I don't know.)

Is the problem that fam is running & you can't connect to it, or that
it isn't running?  ("ps -ef | grep fam" to begin with)

I don't remember whether any of this applies to 5.3, but here are some
things you might try if the problem is that fam isn't running:
- is fam in /etc/inetd.conf?
- is the sgi_fam service in /etc/services?
- when you run "/etc/init.d/network start" (mumble mumble, that might
  not be right, I don't even have any IRIX boxes since those punks
  laid me off) does anything interesting happen?  (you want the
  portmapper and inetd to be running)

It's possible that fam wasn't started by inetd in 5.3.  You might try
running /usr/etc/fam by hand (as root) and see what happens.  (Check
fam's man page to see if it had any debugging options then.)

Also, one thing to keep in mind if you're running the fam from 5.3 on
a system that's on a network, that's probably one of the versions of
fam which had a security hole which people on remote machines can use
to learn the names of all the files on your system.  If that's a
concern to you, there are ways to fix that; one which might work for
you would be to run the open-source fam.  Another might be tcpwrapper.

--Rusty



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hi,
	i noticed that FAM currently has bug open to add kqueue support on
freebsd.  is anyone working on that?  if not, i may be able to spare some
cycles soon to give it a shot.


dave


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    I don't know of anyone working on it right now.  I've almost got CVS up
and going for FAM on sourceforge.  When that's done I'll push out fam-2.7
and we can start look at formally adding in the DNotify patch and support
for kqueue.
    	   						Michael
-- 
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ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.tar.gz

    I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on IRIX using the
Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's no objections I'll push
this out as the official release next week on SourceForge and we can open up
CVS for new work.
    	    	 				Thanks,
						       Michael
-- 
Michael A. Raymond
Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead

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Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)

A question though - what about the support for Solaris?

I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.

Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)

Please see email attached below:

Kind Regards

/ Rolf Sponsel

Michael Raymond wrote:
> 
> ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.tar.gz
> 
>     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on IRIX using the
> Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's no objections I'll push
> this out as the official release next week on SourceForge and we can open up
> CVS for new work.
>                                                 Thanks,
>                                                        Michael
> --
> Michael A. Raymond
> Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead

- - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -

  Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
         Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
         From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
 Organization: Disorganized
           To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions about
KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
   Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>



I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg available.

It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast. The 
performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is about 
3x.

I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and i 
am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise all 
hell breaks loose. :-)

I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May, and 
it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development) build 
of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE will 
definitely use FAM.

If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as to 
whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I would 
be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's and the 
Solaris port source.

--Stefan

-----
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > [... SNIP ...]
> >
> >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc extensions
> > and are  also very linux  dependent .
> >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> >
> >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris , 
> > It would be  great to get hold of  that
> >     port  !
> >
> > [... SNIP ...]
> >
> >    //Lars
>
> I agree, that's great! :-)
>
> I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> his efforts become integrated into the next release of the product
> (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11 release).
>
> But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
>
> Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a kernel
> monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to poll the
> file system periodically? That would even be greater! :-)

-- 
Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python

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Rolf Sponsel

___________________________________________e_n_d___o_f___m_e_s_s_a_g_e_

From steleman@nyc.rr.com Fri Nov 21 17:36:09 2003
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Hi!

I emailed fam@oss.sgi.com and michael.wardle@adacel.com way back in 
July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
about it.

I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.

Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
package and upload it somewhere, or email it.

BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
9).

--Stefan

-----

On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
>
> A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
>
> I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
>
> Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
>
> Please see email attached below:
>
> Kind Regards
>
> / Rolf Sponsel
>
> Michael Raymond wrote:
> > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> >r.gz
> >
> >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> >                                                 Thanks,
> >                                                        Michael
> > --
> > Michael A. Raymond
> > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
>
> - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
>
>   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
>          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
>          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
>  Organization: Disorganized
>            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
>    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>
>
>
>
> I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> available.
>
> It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> about 3x.
>
> I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> all hell breaks loose. :-)
>
> I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> will definitely use FAM.
>
> If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> and the Solaris port source.
>
> --Stefan
>
> -----
>
> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > [... SNIP ...]
> > >
> > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > >
> > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > >     port  !
> > >
> > > [... SNIP ...]
> > >
> > >    //Lars
> >
> > I agree, that's great! :-)
> >
> > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > release).
> >
> > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> >
> > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > :-)

-- 
Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python


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    FAM has been idle for a long time so at this point I just want to push
something out.  As soon as that's done I plan on opening up CVS on
SourceForge and will allow in things like Solaris support as we move towards
another (3.0?) release.
    As to the process for the next release I'm open to suggestions.  The
limited time that I can put into the project suggests that I act mainly just
as a release manager.  As long as everything still "works" on IRIX, I think
we (SGI) are happy to let people take FAM in whatever directions they like.
    Michael Wardle is unfortunately no longer with the company.
    	    	      		       	      	   Thanks,
   	     	      	  	      	     	      Michael

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:33:01PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I emailed fam@oss.sgi.com and michael.wardle@adacel.com way back in 
> July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
> about it.
> 
> I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
> of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
> very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
> no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.
> 
> Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
> package and upload it somewhere, or email it.
> 
> BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
> from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
> 9).
> 
> --Stefan
> 
> -----
> 
> On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
> >
> > A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
> >
> > I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> > having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
> >
> > Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> > If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
> >
> > Please see email attached below:
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > / Rolf Sponsel
> >
> > Michael Raymond wrote:
> > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> > >r.gz
> > >
> > >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> > >                                                 Thanks,
> > >                                                        Michael
> > > --
> > > Michael A. Raymond
> > > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> >
> > - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
> >
> >   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
> >          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
> >          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
> >  Organization: Disorganized
> >            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> > about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
> >    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>
> >
> >
> >
> > I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> > available.
> >
> > It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> > The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> > about 3x.
> >
> > I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> > i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> > all hell breaks loose. :-)
> >
> > I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> > and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> > build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> > will definitely use FAM.
> >
> > If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> > to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> > would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> > and the Solaris port source.
> >
> > --Stefan
> >
> > -----
> >
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > >
> > > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > > >
> > > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > > >     port  !
> > > >
> > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > >
> > > >    //Lars
> > >
> > > I agree, that's great! :-)
> > >
> > > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > > release).
> > >
> > > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> > >
> > > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > > :-)
> 
> -- 
> Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
> steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python
> 

-- 
Michael A. Raymond              Office: (651) 683-3434
Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead

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well, if we're open to suggestions.... :)

The biggest thing that's kept me from using FAM in the past has been the
way FAM handles moves: it tells you a file was removed and another one
was created, but not that they are the same file. For keeping tabs on
where files are in a file system, that makes it pretty hard to do it
with 100% accuracy.

On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 10:27, Michael Raymond wrote:
>     FAM has been idle for a long time so at this point I just want to push
> something out.  As soon as that's done I plan on opening up CVS on
> SourceForge and will allow in things like Solaris support as we move towards
> another (3.0?) release.
>     As to the process for the next release I'm open to suggestions.  The
> limited time that I can put into the project suggests that I act mainly just
> as a release manager.  As long as everything still "works" on IRIX, I think
> we (SGI) are happy to let people take FAM in whatever directions they like.
>     Michael Wardle is unfortunately no longer with the company.
>     	    	      		       	      	   Thanks,
>    	     	      	  	      	     	      Michael
> 
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:33:01PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I emailed fam@oss.sgi.com and michael.wardle@adacel.com way back in 
> > July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
> > about it.
> > 
> > I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
> > of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
> > very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
> > no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.
> > 
> > Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
> > package and upload it somewhere, or email it.
> > 
> > BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
> > from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
> > 9).
> > 
> > --Stefan
> > 
> > -----
> > 
> > On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
> > >
> > > A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
> > >
> > > I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> > > having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
> > >
> > > Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> > > If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
> > >
> > > Please see email attached below:
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > / Rolf Sponsel
> > >
> > > Michael Raymond wrote:
> > > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> > > >r.gz
> > > >
> > > >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > > > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > > > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > > > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> > > >                                                 Thanks,
> > > >                                                        Michael
> > > > --
> > > > Michael A. Raymond
> > > > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> > >
> > > - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
> > >          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
> > >          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
> > >  Organization: Disorganized
> > >            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> > > about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
> > >    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> > > available.
> > >
> > > It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> > > The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> > > about 3x.
> > >
> > > I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> > > i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> > > all hell breaks loose. :-)
> > >
> > > I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> > > and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> > > build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> > > will definitely use FAM.
> > >
> > > If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> > > to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> > > would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> > > and the Solaris port source.
> > >
> > > --Stefan
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > > > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > > > >
> > > > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > > > >     port  !
> > > > >
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >    //Lars
> > > >
> > > > I agree, that's great! :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > > > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > > > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > > > release).
> > > >
> > > > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> > > >
> > > > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > > > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > > > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > > > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > > > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > > > :-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
> > steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python
> > 


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On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 20:04, Ben wrote:
> well, if we're open to suggestions.... :)
> 
> The biggest thing that's kept me from using FAM in the past has been the
> way FAM handles moves: it tells you a file was removed and another one
> was created, but not that they are the same file. For keeping tabs on
> where files are in a file system, that makes it pretty hard to do it
> with 100% accuracy.

This isn't the fault of fam really. It depends on what information the
kernel give you about changes.

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my completely unordered comments on releasing:

- are there any regression tests for fam on any platforms?  as we start to
make more chages, it'd be awesome to know that we're not blowing away bits
of functionality that others are using.

- echoing the open source mantra, "release early, release often".  i think
we should have more releases of fam :)

- features that i'd like to see: kqueue support, more docs on the internals
of fam (just browsing header files is taking me forever to learn what
everything does - or does this exist already?)

- how about re-writing the fam daemon using apache portable runtime
(http://apr.apache.org) ?  I don't know all the details of how that might
work, but it seems like fam might be able to run on lots of platforms if it
were possible to use apr as the system interface.  ('course, such low-level
details like kernel modules will likely make such usage pretty hard... but
we should think about it all the same.)

- is it possible to port the basic functionality to win32?

dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Raymond [mailto:mraymond@sgi.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Stefan Teleman
Cc: Rolf Sponsel; fam@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: FAM 2.7.0-pre2


    FAM has been idle for a long time so at this point I just want to push
something out.  As soon as that's done I plan on opening up CVS on
SourceForge and will allow in things like Solaris support as we move towards
another (3.0?) release.
    As to the process for the next release I'm open to suggestions.  The
limited time that I can put into the project suggests that I act mainly just
as a release manager.  As long as everything still "works" on IRIX, I think
we (SGI) are happy to let people take FAM in whatever directions they like.
    Michael Wardle is unfortunately no longer with the company.
    	    	      		       	      	   Thanks,
   	     	      	  	      	     	      Michael

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:33:01PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I emailed fam@oss.sgi.com and michael.wardle@adacel.com way back in 
> July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
> about it.
> 
> I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
> of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
> very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
> no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.
> 
> Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
> package and upload it somewhere, or email it.
> 
> BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
> from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
> 9).
> 
> --Stefan
> 
> -----
> 
> On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
> >
> > A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
> >
> > I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> > having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
> >
> > Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> > If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
> >
> > Please see email attached below:
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > / Rolf Sponsel
> >
> > Michael Raymond wrote:
> > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> > >r.gz
> > >
> > >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> > >                                                 Thanks,
> > >                                                        Michael
> > > --
> > > Michael A. Raymond
> > > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> >
> > - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
> >
> >   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
> >          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
> >          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
> >  Organization: Disorganized
> >            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> > about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
> >    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>
> >
> >
> >
> > I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> > available.
> >
> > It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> > The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> > about 3x.
> >
> > I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> > i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> > all hell breaks loose. :-)
> >
> > I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> > and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> > build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> > will definitely use FAM.
> >
> > If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> > to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> > would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> > and the Solaris port source.
> >
> > --Stefan
> >
> > -----
> >
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > >
> > > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > > >
> > > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > > >     port  !
> > > >
> > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > >
> > > >    //Lars
> > >
> > > I agree, that's great! :-)
> > >
> > > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > > release).
> > >
> > > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> > >
> > > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > > :-)
> 
> -- 
> Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
> steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python
> 

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From: Michael Raymond <mraymond@sgi.com>
To: "Viner, David" <dviner@yahoo-inc.com>
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    There are some tests including with fam but I don't know how good they
are.  I'm going to try to push out 2.7 this afternoon, or else do it on
Monday.  Next week I'll update the SourceForge CVS site and will give write
access to anyone who shows me that they're ready to checkin.
       	  	     	      	   	   	    	    Michael

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:53:48AM -0800, Viner, David wrote:
> my completely unordered comments on releasing:
> 
> - are there any regression tests for fam on any platforms?  as we start to
> make more chages, it'd be awesome to know that we're not blowing away bits
> of functionality that others are using.
> 
> - echoing the open source mantra, "release early, release often".  i think
> we should have more releases of fam :)
> 
> - features that i'd like to see: kqueue support, more docs on the internals
> of fam (just browsing header files is taking me forever to learn what
> everything does - or does this exist already?)
> 
> - how about re-writing the fam daemon using apache portable runtime
> (http://apr.apache.org) ?  I don't know all the details of how that might
> work, but it seems like fam might be able to run on lots of platforms if it
> were possible to use apr as the system interface.  ('course, such low-level
> details like kernel modules will likely make such usage pretty hard... but
> we should think about it all the same.)
> 
> - is it possible to port the basic functionality to win32?
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Raymond [mailto:mraymond@sgi.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: Stefan Teleman
> Cc: Rolf Sponsel; fam@oss.sgi.com
> Subject: Re: FAM 2.7.0-pre2
> 
> 
>     FAM has been idle for a long time so at this point I just want to push
> something out.  As soon as that's done I plan on opening up CVS on
> SourceForge and will allow in things like Solaris support as we move towards
> another (3.0?) release.
>     As to the process for the next release I'm open to suggestions.  The
> limited time that I can put into the project suggests that I act mainly just
> as a release manager.  As long as everything still "works" on IRIX, I think
> we (SGI) are happy to let people take FAM in whatever directions they like.
>     Michael Wardle is unfortunately no longer with the company.
>     	    	      		       	      	   Thanks,
>    	     	      	  	      	     	      Michael
> 
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:33:01PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I emailed fam@oss.sgi.com and michael.wardle@adacel.com way back in 
> > July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
> > about it.
> > 
> > I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
> > of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
> > very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
> > no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.
> > 
> > Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
> > package and upload it somewhere, or email it.
> > 
> > BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
> > from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
> > 9).
> > 
> > --Stefan
> > 
> > -----
> > 
> > On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
> > >
> > > A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
> > >
> > > I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> > > having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
> > >
> > > Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> > > If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
> > >
> > > Please see email attached below:
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > / Rolf Sponsel
> > >
> > > Michael Raymond wrote:
> > > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> > > >r.gz
> > > >
> > > >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > > > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > > > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > > > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> > > >                                                 Thanks,
> > > >                                                        Michael
> > > > --
> > > > Michael A. Raymond
> > > > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> > >
> > > - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
> > >          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
> > >          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@nyc.rr.com>
> > >  Organization: Disorganized
> > >            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> > > about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@mail.kde.org>,
> > >    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@kstr.lth.se>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> > > available.
> > >
> > > It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> > > The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> > > about 3x.
> > >
> > > I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> > > i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> > > all hell breaks loose. :-)
> > >
> > > I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> > > and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> > > build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> > > will definitely use FAM.
> > >
> > > If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> > > to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> > > would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> > > and the Solaris port source.
> > >
> > > --Stefan
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > > > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > > > >
> > > > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > > > >     port  !
> > > > >
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >    //Lars
> > > >
> > > > I agree, that's great! :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > > > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > > > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > > > release).
> > > >
> > > > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> > > >
> > > > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > > > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > > > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > > > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > > > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > > > :-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
> > steleman@nyc.rr.com                          -Monty Python
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Michael A. Raymond              Office: (651) 683-3434
> Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> 

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Hi Michael,

Michael Raymond, on 2003-11-26, 12:15, you wrote:
>     There are some tests including with fam but I don't know how good they
> are.  I'm going to try to push out 2.7 this afternoon, or else do it on
> Monday.  Next week I'll update the SourceForge CVS site and will give wri=
te
> access to anyone who shows me that they're ready to checkin.

As soon as I finish the 2.7 Debian package I am willing to check in the
patches for building that package. If you like I can simply send them to
you for validation. My sf.net user name is 'joergland'.

Cheers,
  Joerg

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    FAM 2.7.0 has been released on http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ and can
be downloaded from ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/stable/.  It
includes numerous small fixes and improvements over 2.6.0 which can be seen
in the ChangeLog.
    All the changes will be integrated to the SF project next week and all
future development will be SF based.  There is a SF mailing list for CVS
changes but for the time being I'd like to keep the regular mailing list the
current one on oss.sgi.com.
    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.  I'll be going out backpacking tomorrow and
Friday as there'll be no one else on the trail (http://www.shta.org) and
will get back to find out what went wrong with the release on Saturday. :)
     	      	      	       	    	       Thanks,
					       	      Michael
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    Sounds good.  Send me a diff against 2.7 and I'll add you to the SF
developer's list.
	    	 				Thanks,
						       Michael

On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 07:41:17PM +0100, Joerg Wendland wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Michael Raymond, on 2003-11-26, 12:15, you wrote:
> >     There are some tests including with fam but I don't know how good they
> > are.  I'm going to try to push out 2.7 this afternoon, or else do it on
> > Monday.  Next week I'll update the SourceForge CVS site and will give write
> > access to anyone who shows me that they're ready to checkin.
> 
> As soon as I finish the 2.7 Debian package I am willing to check in the
> patches for building that package. If you like I can simply send them to
> you for validation. My sf.net user name is 'joergland'.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Joerg
> 
> -- 
> Joerg "joergland" Wendland
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