From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Fri Apr 12 09:18:00 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3CGI08d009118 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:18:00 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3CGHxJq009117 for fam-outgoing; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:17:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from oceanus2.uk.clara.net (smtp.clara.net [195.8.69.18]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3CGHu8d009110 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:17:57 -0700 Received: from siliconsystems.claranet.co.uk ([195.8.74.181] helo=landrover.siliconsystems.co.uk) by oceanus2.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 16w3kv-000Iqh-00 for fam@oss.sgi.com; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:18:33 +0100 Received: by LANDROVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2VQNF2L7>; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: Adrian Moir To: "'fam@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: [fam] File list generation. Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:23:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Guys, I have a need to be able to generate a file list/path of files as they are added to a linux server. I'm already running xfs, can fam and imon be used to generate this list as files arrive? If so do you know how I would go about this? Many Thanks, Adrian Moir. -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Fri Apr 12 10:52:15 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3CHqF8d016301 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:52:15 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3CHqFZe016299 for fam-outgoing; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:52:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from dns.acsys.com (usa.acsys.com [192.92.123.51]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3CHqC8d016291 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:52:13 -0700 Received: from usa.acsys.com (acsmail.acsys.com [192.92.123.251]) by dns.acsys.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g3CHrup09907; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:53:57 -0600 Received: from acsys.com (paladin2 [172.16.10.185]) by usa.acsys.com (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g3CHqLN06101; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3CB702B4.89B7F408@acsys.com> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:52:20 -0400 From: "William C. Phye" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8-26mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fam@oss.sgi.com, michael.wardle@adacel.com Subject: [fam] FAM & imon status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Logged: Logged by usa.acsys.com as g3CHqLN06101 at Fri Apr 12 11:52:21 2002 Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, Michael. Just curious if new release(s) [FAM & imon] supporting 2.4.8 and/or 2.5.x have availability dates? If the FAQ content is any indication, many shops - including ours - have great need for added capability that updated FAN & imon can offer. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon. Bill -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sun Apr 14 16:55:31 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3ENtV8d020283 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:55:31 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3ENtV67020282 for fam-outgoing; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:55:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3ENtQ8d020260 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:55:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 20162 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2002 23:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO adacel.com) (192.168.75.252) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2002 23:51:46 -0000 Message-ID: <3CBA17ED.8030109@adacel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:59:41 +1000 From: Michael Wardle Organization: Adacel Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020205 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en-au, en, en-gb MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Moir CC: "'fam@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: Re: [fam] File list generation. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Adrian Adrian Moir wrote: > I have a need to be able to generate a file list/path of files as they > are added to a linux server. I'm already running xfs, can fam and > imon be used to generate this list as files arrive? FAM was designed to only monitor 1 level deep, so it won't (for instance) notify of all files that change on the entire filesystem by simply monitoring the root filesystem. I can't think of an easy way to do this with FAM, but I'd like to think that it could be done. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. -- MICHAEL WARDLE | WORK +61-2-6024-2699 SGI Desktop & Admin Software | MOBILE +61-415-439-838 Adacel Technologies Limited | WEB www.softwarecoding.com -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sun Apr 14 17:06:04 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3F0648d020671 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:06:04 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3F064nh020670 for fam-outgoing; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:06:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3F05v8d020659 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:05:58 -0700 Received: (qmail 21393 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2002 00:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO adacel.com) (192.168.75.252) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2002 00:02:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3CBA1A6E.4040006@adacel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:10:22 +1000 From: Michael Wardle Organization: Adacel Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020205 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en-au, en, en-gb MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William C. Phye" CC: fam@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fam] FAM & imon status References: <3CB702B4.89B7F408@acsys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hi William William C. Phye wrote: > Just curious if new release(s) [FAM & imon] supporting 2.4.8 and/or > 2.5.x have availability dates? FAM and IMon releases are independent of each other. FAM does not depend on any particular kernel version (that is: it should work fine on 2.2 and 2.4 kernels). I have stopped actively maintaining IMon as I was not happy with the way we were patching into the kernel, and it was taking too much effort to make IMon patches given the rapid pace with which new kernels are released. FAM/DNotify is an alternative to FAM/IMon. It is not quite as featureful in some aspects, however it should be a viable replacement. It's being used on many Linux distributions. You might like to get the DNotify patch from and try it. I expect to include DNotify support in our FAM sources when I release 2.7 one day. I think there were also some IMon patches contributed for more recent 2.4 Linux kernels (indeed I'm fairly sure there was one for 2.4.8). They should be available in OSS Bugzilla and/or from the FAM download area, however there are some problems with oss.sgi.com, so I can't check at the moment. In brief: 1) I'm no longer officially supporting IMon patches for Linux 2) DNotify is the preferred kernel monitor for FAM on Linux. A patch to add DNotify support is available in the FAM download area (when oss.sgi.com is available). 3) Users have contributed unofficial IMon patches. These patches should be available somewhere on oss.sgi.com. Users are welcome to continue providing such patches. I hope this information helps, and I'm sorry I can't give more details at this time due to service problems on oss.sgi.com. If you have any more questions, please write back. Regards -- MICHAEL WARDLE | WORK +61-2-6024-2699 SGI Desktop & Admin Software | MOBILE +61-415-439-838 Adacel Technologies Limited | WEB www.softwarecoding.com -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sun Apr 14 17:16:23 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3F0GN8d021030 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:16:23 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3F0GNXX021029 for fam-outgoing; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:16:23 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3F0GH8d021024 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:16:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 22731 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2002 00:12:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO adacel.com) (192.168.75.252) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2002 00:12:46 -0000 Message-ID: <3CBA1CDA.7070103@adacel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:20:42 +1000 From: Michael Wardle Organization: Adacel Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020205 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en-au, en, en-gb MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William C. Phye" CC: fam@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fam] FAM & imon status References: <3CB702B4.89B7F408@acsys.com> <3CBA1A6E.4040006@adacel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Michael Wardle wrote: > Hi William > > William C. Phye wrote: > >> Just curious if new release(s) [FAM & imon] supporting 2.4.8 and/or >> 2.5.x have availability dates? [...] > I think there were also some IMon patches contributed for more recent > 2.4 Linux kernels (indeed I'm fairly sure there was one for 2.4.8). > They should be available in OSS Bugzilla and/or from the FAM download > area, however there are some problems with oss.sgi.com, so I can't > check at the moment. It seems that FTP access is still available. The IMon patches are here: . There are contributions for Linux kernels including 2.4.7, 2.4.10, and 2.4.12. The latest version of FAM is still 2.6.7. Good luck. -- MICHAEL WARDLE | WORK +61-2-6024-2699 SGI Desktop & Admin Software | MOBILE +61-415-439-838 Adacel Technologies Limited | WEB www.softwarecoding.com -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sun Apr 14 21:44:13 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3F4iD8d029365 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:44:13 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3F4iDan029364 for fam-outgoing; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:44:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3F4i78d029353 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:44:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 19153 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2002 04:40:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO adacel.com) (192.168.75.20) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2002 04:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3CBA5C01.3080700@adacel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:50:09 +1000 From: Michael Wardle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: phye@acsys.com CC: fam@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fam] FAM & imon status References: <3CB702B4.89B7F408@acsys.com> <3CBA1A6E.4040006@adacel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Mon Apr 15 05:41:33 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3FCfX8d019864 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:41:33 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3FCfXN7019863 for fam-outgoing; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:41:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from mail.funport.com (mail.funport.com [216.199.19.6]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3FCfQ8d019855 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:41:26 -0700 Received: from hastys.net ([]) by mail.funport.com (Merak 4.4.2) with ESMTP id JFB36580; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:41:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3CBACA6F.2BC22CF4@hastys.net> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:41:19 -0400 From: "Donald G. Knecht" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Wardle CC: "William C. Phye" , fam@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fam] FAM & imon status References: <3CB702B4.89B7F408@acsys.com> <3CBA1A6E.4040006@adacel.com> <3CBA1CDA.7070103@adacel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Michael Wardle wrote: > > Michael Wardle wrote: > > Hi William > > > > William C. Phye wrote: > > > >> Just curious if new release(s) [FAM & imon] supporting 2.4.8 and/or > >> 2.5.x have availability dates? > > [...] > > > I think there were also some IMon patches contributed for more recent > > 2.4 Linux kernels (indeed I'm fairly sure there was one for 2.4.8). > > They should be available in OSS Bugzilla and/or from the FAM download > > area, however there are some problems with oss.sgi.com, so I can't > > check at the moment. > > It seems that FTP access is still available. The IMon patches are here: > . > > There are contributions for Linux kernels including 2.4.7, 2.4.10, and > 2.4.12. A fellow SuSE user gave me a patch for 2.4.17 kernel, it woks fine and if you like i'll look for it on my home box after work. Let me know, don > > The latest version of FAM is still 2.6.7. > > Good luck. > > -- > MICHAEL WARDLE | WORK +61-2-6024-2699 > SGI Desktop & Admin Software | MOBILE +61-415-439-838 > Adacel Technologies Limited | WEB www.softwarecoding.com > > -- > Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ > To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com -- Donald G. Knecht Service Manager Hasty's Communications of FL, Inc. 270 N. Hwy 17, Unit #6 Palatka, FL 32177 (386) 328-3465 FAX (386) 328-7404 -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Thu Apr 18 01:50:50 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3I8oo8d030684 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:50:50 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3I8ooAS030683 for fam-outgoing; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:50:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from sgi.com (sgi-too.SGI.COM [204.94.211.39]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3I8oi8d030677 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:50:44 -0700 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAB05153 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:51:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (martin.rode@programmfabrik.de) Received: from fwd11.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16y7Tz-00079o-0Q; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:41:35 +0200 Received: from apu.pf-berlin.de (520077136725-0001@[217.224.215.133]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16y7Tx-0nm7t2C; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:41:33 +0200 Received: from marge.pf-berlin.de (marge.pf-berlin.de [192.168.0.10]) by apu.pf-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E937DF for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [fam] New / Updated Files From: Martin Rode To: fam@oss.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 18 Apr 2002 10:35:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1019118924.8745.122.camel@marge> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 520077136725-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Dear FAM developers, after asking for a solution for my current problem on linux-kernel I was pointed to the FAM project. From reading the FAQ I understand that you can monitor abritary files or directories for changes. My problem is slightly different. We often have the problem, that we need to create what we call "hot folders". A hot folder is being polled for changes every n seconds. Newly arrived files are being processed. Updated files are being re-processed. As you can image it is not desirable to do this with find & friends, so I was looking for a solution within the VFS layer of the linux kernel. People mentioned d_notify but it does not help much. So, my questions: 1) Is FAM capable of doing what I need to create a "hot folder" without polling the directory every n seconds ? 2) If not, are there any plans to have such a feature integrated into FAM? Thanks for your help! ;martin p.s.: please reply to my reply-address, I'm no subscriber to any of your lists. -- Dipl.-Kfm. Martin Rode Managing Director martin.rode@programmfabrik.de Programmfabrik GmbH Fon +49-(0)30-4281-8001 Frankfurter Allee 73d Fax +49-(0)30-4281-8008 10247 Berlin Funk +49-(0)163-5321400 http://www.programmfabrik.de/ -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Thu Apr 18 04:52:28 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3IBqR8d012038 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:52:27 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3IBqR6V012036 for fam-outgoing; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:52:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from vdlafw01.ispman.net (dsl-2-dslam1-31.urbanet.ch [195.202.196.17] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3IBqM8d012030 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:52:23 -0700 Received: from developer.ch (unknown [172.23.17.211]) by vdlafw01.ispman.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A5C464F9; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3CBEB39C.3030801@developer.ch> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:53:00 +0200 From: Atif Ghaffar Reply-To: fam@oss.sgi.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020327 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fam@oss.sgi.com Cc: Martin Rode Subject: Re: [fam] New / Updated Files References: <1019118924.8745.122.camel@marge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk > 1) Is FAM capable of doing what I need to create a "hot folder" without > polling the directory every n seconds ? Yes. You can use FAM with IMON. http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/faq.html#what_is_imon Have a look at this article, It may give you some idea. http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/March2001/article199.shtml > p.s.: please reply to my reply-address, I'm no subscriber to any of your > lists. Please subscribe to the list. I dont usually reply/CC the sender if the mail is sent to the list. best regards. -- Atif Ghaffar ---------------------------. +41 78 845 31 64 ¦ tel aghaffar@developer.ch ¦ email http://atifghaffar.com ¦ www 8206786 ¦ icq -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Thu Apr 18 05:28:39 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3ICSd8d013928 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:28:39 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3ICSdKa013927 for fam-outgoing; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:28:39 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3ICSZ8d013920 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:28:36 -0700 Received: from informatik.tu-muenchen.de (a1as15-p76.mch.tli.de [195.252.168.76]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22010; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:29:29 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3CBEBC5E.E5ED0518@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:30:22 +0200 From: Christian Kreibich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fam@oss.sgi.com CC: Martin Rode Subject: Re: [fam] New / Updated Files References: <1019118924.8745.122.camel@marge> <3CBEB39C.3030801@developer.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Atif Ghaffar wrote: > > > 1) Is FAM capable of doing what I need to create a "hot folder" without > > polling the directory every n seconds ? > > Yes. You can use FAM with IMON. > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/faq.html#what_is_imon > > Have a look at this article, It may give you some idea. > http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/March2001/article199.shtml Since Martin mentioned linux-kernel I'll assume he's using linux, and should therefore probably rather use the dnotify'd version of FAM. I've been using it myself for a while now, it works great. Cheers, Christian. -- ________________________________________________________________________ http://www.whoop.org -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Thu Apr 18 18:19:59 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3J1Jx8d017173 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:19:59 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3J1Jxpd017172 for fam-outgoing; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:19:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3J1Jn8d017168 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:19:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 7872 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2002 01:16:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO adacel.com) (192.168.75.20) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2002 01:16:04 -0000 Message-ID: <3CBF7235.7010106@adacel.com> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:26:13 +1000 From: Michael Wardle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Rode CC: fam@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fam] New / Updated Files References: <1019118924.8745.122.camel@marge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Martin Martin Rode wrote: > 1) Is FAM capable of doing what I need to create a "hot folder" without > polling the directory every n seconds ? Yes! To elaborate on what others have already mentioned: There are 2 parts to the FAM system: - a user space part - a kernel space part FAM is the name of the user space part, and can be downloaded here: You can also find FAM in many recent Linux distributions. If you can find it on your distribution, you'll probably be able to ignore the IMon v. DNotify information that follows, as things should work without any modifications. For the kernel space part, you can choose between IMon and DNotify. IMon is the kernel space monitor written by SGI. It is designed to be very efficient, and hooks in directly at the kernel level. Unfortunately, it doesn't hook in in a clean manner, and it takes too much time for me to make a new release of IMon every time there is a new version of the Linux kernel, so I'm not actively maintaining IMon any longer. The latest versions you can download have been contributed by users. With this in mind, you can get the IMon patch here: (choose the version most appropriate for the Linux kernel version you're running). As you will read in the file you download, you get IMon working by patching the Linux kernel sources with this patch using a command like patch < imon-0.0.2-2.4.7. DNotify is the kernel space monitor included as a standard part of the Linux kernel since Linux 2.4.0. It does the job nicely, but the way it works is probably not as efficient, and it actually opens the files directly, so you might not think of this as an entirely kernel-based utility. Because DNotify is already in the kernel, you will not need to do any patching of the kernel if you're using a version >= 2.4.0. The implication of this is it's probably easier to use IMon if you're using a 2.2 or earlier kernel. The version of FAM that's available for download does not support DNotify, but there's a well-tested patch to add DNotify support available at: . If no kernel monitor is available, FAM will fall back to polling the file system, so that developers can be sure that FAM will report changes on files, regardless of whether the host FAM is running on has something like IMon or DNotify. I hope this answers any preliminary questions you might have. If you would like to know anything further, please read the FAM FAQ at: . I would also recommend looking at our mailing list archives at: , however things aren't working properly there since early April when the server was relocated. For help on the patches, see if there's a docmentation file such as README or INSTALL in the sources. If all that fails, please feel welcome to post your question here. Regards -- MICHAEL WARDLE | WORK +61-2-6024-2699 SGI Desktop & Admin Software | MOBILE +61-415-439-838 Adacel Technologies Limited | WEB www.softwarecoding.com -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sat Apr 27 02:24:50 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3R9OowJ021855 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 02:24:50 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3R9OoIZ021854 for fam-outgoing; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 02:24:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from mx1.toplink-plannet.de (mx1.toplink-plannet.de [212.126.200.57]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3R9OkwJ021851 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 02:24:48 -0700 Received: from c210x.ser0-15-16.greta.kar1.toplink-plan.net ([212.126.194.16] helo=zeus) by mx1.toplink-plannet.de with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 171OSF-0006VX-00 for fam@oss.sgi.com; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:25:19 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:27:57 +0200 Message-ID: <01C1EDDE.94B691C0.joerg.hansen@plannet.de> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Hansen?= To: "'fam@oss.sgi.com'" Subject: [fam] imon-0.0.2-2.4.17 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:27:52 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, the kernel patch file imon-0.0.2-2.4.17 in ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/imon has the permissions 600 and can not be downloaded. Is this intended? Are there any mirrors? Joerg -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com From owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Sun Apr 28 22:04:38 2002 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3T54cwJ022031 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 22:04:38 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3T54bGT022030 for fam-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 22:04:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-fam@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from nexus.adacel.com (shelob.adacel.com.au [203.36.26.146] (may be forged)) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g3T54WwJ022019 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 22:04:33 -0700 Received: (qmail 19767 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2002 04:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO selene) (192.168.75.20) by nexus.adacel.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2002 04:59:26 -0000 Message-ID: <027001c1ef3c$422aec30$144ba8c0@wodonga.adacel.com.au> From: "Michael WARDLE" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Hansen?= , References: <01C1EDDE.94B691C0.joerg.hansen@plannet.de> Subject: Re: [fam] imon-0.0.2-2.4.17 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:11:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-fam@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Jörg Hansen wrote: > the kernel patch file imon-0.0.2-2.4.17 in > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/imon has the permissions 600 > and can not be downloaded. Is this intended? No, of course not! I copied the file over rather hastily late last week, and did not check its permissions. The file should now be world-readable. Thanks for pointing this out, and sorry for any inconvenience. Regards -- MICHAEL WARDLE SGI Desktop & Admin Software Adacel Technologies Limited -- Source code, list archive, and docs: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/ To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe fam | mail majordomo@oss.sgi.com