From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Fri Jan 5 10:39:03 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:38:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.SGI.COM ([192.48.153.1]:3898 "EHLO sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:38:36 -0800 Received: from pauhana.engr.sgi.com ([130.62.53.47]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA08421 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:38:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (travis@pauhana.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from travis@localhost) by pauhana.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08881; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:36:54 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Travis Message-Id: <200101051836.KAA08881@pauhana.engr.sgi.com> Subject: dmSDK open source released (fwd) To: video4linux-list@redhat.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:36:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Reply-To: travis@sgi.com (Mike Travis) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing For those of you who may be interested, SGI has released the open source code for it's "Digital Media Software Development Kit" (or dmSDK). (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010104/ca_sgi_ope.html) This library is basically a library that utilizes a "thin" layer (above for example, the Video4Linux and Open Sound System drivers) to provide a common interface to user applications. It has been been accepted as the prototype for the OpenML digital media component by the Khronos Group (www.khronos.org), (OpenGL is the graphics component). It's envisioned that OpenML will provide a seemless integration of audio, video and graphics on a wide range of platforms. A majordomo'd mailing list is maintained at dmsdk@oss.sgi.com. Cheers, Mike Travis travis@sgi.com From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Tue Jan 9 05:09:46 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 05:09:36 -0800 Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl ([194.109.127.135]:3829 "EHLO smtp9.xs4all.nl") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 05:09:26 -0800 Received: from [10.66.196.33] (copperwire.xs4all.nl [194.109.226.168]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28814 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:09:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:08:11 +0100 (CET) From: Andy Lo A Foe To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: applications using dmSDK Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hi, I'm new to the list and to dmSDK. Are there any (released) applications available that make use of the dmSDK? Thanks, Andy From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Thu Jan 11 13:19:23 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:19:14 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:21367 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:18:59 -0800 Received: from pauhana.engr.sgi.com (pauhana.engr.sgi.com [130.62.53.47]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA07941 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:27:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (travis@pauhana.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from travis@localhost) by pauhana.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07281; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:17:41 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Travis Message-Id: <200101112117.NAA07281@pauhana.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: applications using dmSDK To: andy@copperwire.xs4all.nl (Andy Lo A Foe) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:17:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Reply-To: travis@sgi.com (Mike Travis) In-Reply-To: from "Andy Lo A Foe" at Jan 09, 2001 02:08:11 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Andy Lo A Foe writes: > > Hi, > > I'm new to the list and to dmSDK. Are there any (released) applications > available that make use of the dmSDK? > > Thanks, > Andy > > Hi Andy, There are many dmSDK applications in development by our VARs, particularly in the entertainment market. At SGI we are currently working on a couple as well. As for open source dmSDK applications, besides the example programs, there are none presently. My advice for you right now is to watch this space for news, join the SGI developers group for access to more dmSDK resources (base membership is free), and look for announcements coming before and during NAB in mid-April. If you are interested in developing an application and would like to know more about becoming a VAR, please contact Aldon Caron (aldonc@sgi.com) in marketing. Thanks very much for your interest! Mike Travis travis@sgi.com From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 15 07:32:22 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:32:12 -0800 Received: from smtp01do.de.uu.net ([192.76.144.61]:20684 "EHLO smtp01do.de.uu.net") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:31:55 -0800 Received: from kirk.DVS-Hannover.de (kirk.DVS-Hannover.de [192.109.46.118]) by smtp01do.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id QAA14745 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:31:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from dvs.de (192.109.46.9 [192.109.46.9]) by kirk.DVS-Hannover.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Y5GJNTXB; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3A6317C2.B3306609@dvs.de> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:31:14 +0100 From: Sven Heinzel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-dvs i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: dmSDK for Linux and PAL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing if I use the 'NTSC timing' for example with : controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_525; my test program works. But when I just change the mode to PAL with: controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_625; I get the error message: [hd param verification] error, param DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32 has value 3, but should have value 2 So why 'should' it be 2 when I have selected 3? Is the mode hardcoded to NTSC? Thanks in advance. Regards Sven Heinzel From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 15 20:10:19 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:09:59 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56125 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:09:29 -0800 Received: from mtv.engr.sgi.com (mtv.engr.sgi.com [130.62.52.34]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA29831 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:08:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (frankb@mtv.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from frankb@localhost) by mtv.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA64408; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:08:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:08:09 -0800 (PST) From: frankb@mtv.engr.sgi.com (Frank Bernard) Message-Id: <10101152008.ZM1519023@mtv.engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Sven Heinzel "dmSDK for Linux and PAL" (Jan 15, 4:31pm) References: <3A6317C2.B3306609@dvs.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Sven Heinzel , dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: dmSDK for Linux and PAL Cc: frankb@sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing On Jan 15, 4:31pm, Sven Heinzel wrote: > Subject: dmSDK for Linux and PAL > if I use the 'NTSC timing' for example with : > > controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; > controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_525; > > my test program works. > But when I just change the mode to PAL with: > > controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; > controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_625; > > I get the error message: > > [hd param verification] error, param DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32 has value > 3, but should have value 2 > > So why 'should' it be 2 when I have selected 3? Is the mode hardcoded to > NTSC? > Thanks in advance. Sven, What PAL device are you trying to control with your test program? Regards, -frank > > > Regards > Sven Heinzel >-- End of excerpt from Sven Heinzel From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 15 21:09:38 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:09:18 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61769 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:09:13 -0800 Received: from nyquist.engr.sgi.com (nyquist.engr.sgi.com [130.62.14.162]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA04269 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:08:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mpruett@nyquist.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from mpruett@localhost) by nyquist.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA94108 for dmsdk@oss.sgi.com; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:07:56 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Pruett Message-Id: <200101160507.VAA94108@nyquist.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: dmSDK for Linux and PAL To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:07:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3A6317C2.B3306609@dvs.de> from "Sven Heinzel" at Jan 15, 2001 04:31:14 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing > But when I just change the mode to PAL with: > > controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; > controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_625; > > I get the error message: Sven, Yes, currently the only timing is DM_TIMING_525 (NTSC) as you can see from the source code (oss/devices/v4l/linux/dmmodule/src/v4lDevice.c). We would gladly accept a patch to the v4l module to add support for PAL timing. Meanwhile, I'll add it to the list of things to be taken care of. Michael From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 15 22:17:48 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:17:39 -0800 Received: from sgi.SGI.COM ([192.48.153.1]:14706 "EHLO sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:17:21 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id WAA00752 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:17:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (travis@sgi.com) Received: from dslmongoose (dsl-mongoose.corp.sgi.com [192.102.144.182]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA40813; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:16:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003601c07eba$9879a660$b69066c0@corp.sgi.com> From: "Mike Travis" To: "Michael Pruett" , References: <200101160507.VAA94108@nyquist.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: dmSDK for Linux and PAL Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:15:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Smooth... ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Pruett" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: Re: dmSDK for Linux and PAL > > But when I just change the mode to PAL with: > > > > controls[i].param = DM_VIDEO_TIMING_INT32; > > controls[i].value.int32 = DM_TIMING_625; > > > > I get the error message: > > Sven, > Yes, currently the only timing is DM_TIMING_525 (NTSC) as you can see > from the source code (oss/devices/v4l/linux/dmmodule/src/v4lDevice.c). > > We would gladly accept a patch to the v4l module to add support for PAL > timing. Meanwhile, I'll add it to the list of things to be taken care > of. > > Michael > From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Thu Jan 18 04:23:28 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:23:18 -0800 Received: from erasmus.cs.ut.ee ([193.40.5.149]:17156 "HELO erasmus.cs.ut.ee") by oss.sgi.com with SMTP id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:23:02 -0800 Received: by erasmus.cs.ut.ee (Postfix, from userid 1111) id 5AE244360C7; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:22:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:22:56 +0200 From: Lauri Jesmin To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: dmSDK open source released (fwd) Message-ID: <20010118142256.A2666@doom.tkwcy.ee> Reply-To: Lauri Jesmin References: <200101051836.KAA08881@pauhana.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101051836.KAA08881@pauhana.engr.sgi.com>; from travis@pauhana.engr.sgi.com on Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:36:54AM -0800 Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:36:54AM -0800, Mike Travis wrote: > > For those of you who may be interested, SGI has released the open > source code for it's "Digital Media Software Development Kit" (or > dmSDK). (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010104/ca_sgi_ope.html) > > This library is basically a library that utilizes a "thin" layer > (above for example, the Video4Linux and Open Sound System drivers) > to provide a common interface to user applications. It has been > been accepted as the prototype for the OpenML digital media > component by the Khronos Group (www.khronos.org), (OpenGL is the > graphics component). It's envisioned that OpenML will provide a > seemless integration of audio, video and graphics on a wide range > of platforms. > > A majordomo'd mailing list is maintained at dmsdk@oss.sgi.com. As I understand, the dmSDK for IRIX includes also support for different file types/compression methods but this is not supported by dmSDK for Linux. So, will it be available sometimes ? Is there a possibility to add easily your own modules for supporting different file/media formats ? > > Cheers, > Mike Travis > travis@sgi.com -- Lauri Jesmin (doom@my-host-name-is-longer-than-yours.tkwcy.ee) Greetings to uncle Sam! From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Sun Jan 21 23:47:40 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:47:20 -0800 Received: from dsl-58-242.ultracom.net ([209.166.58.242]:7172 "EHLO outside.m-six.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:47:01 -0800 Received: from VAIO (vaio.m-six.com [10.0.0.5]) by outside.m-six.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0M7pfv00887 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:51:45 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01c08448$2c536af0$0500000a@VAIO> From: "Max Risenhoover" To: Subject: SGI "Radical" support? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:51:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Does anyone know of current or planned support in the Linux dmsdk for the SGI 8 channel ADAT PCI board? -Max From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 22 00:33:40 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:33:31 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:58948 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:33:13 -0800 Received: from asdf.engr.sgi.com (asdf.engr.sgi.com [130.62.54.151]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA00302 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:42:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jaya@asdf.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from jaya@localhost) by asdf.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA14914; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:31:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200101220831.AAA14914@asdf.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: SGI "Radical" support? To: max@m-six.com (Max Risenhoover) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:30:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <002a01c08448$2c536af0$0500000a@VAIO> from "Max Risenhoover" at Jan 22, 2001 02:51:44 AM From: jaya@sgi.com Reply-To: jaya@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hi Max, We're working on it. We're very interested in feedback on what kind of system you would use it with as well as what specific functionality you are interested in, latency constraints, realtime or non-realtime, synchronization with graphics/video, etc. Thanks, jaya > > Does anyone know of current or planned support in the Linux dmsdk for the > SGI 8 channel ADAT PCI board? > -Max > > From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 22 01:19:01 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:18:41 -0800 Received: from boggy.ai.cluny.ensam.fr ([193.48.141.2]:39369 "EHLO boggy.ai.cluny.ensam.fr") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:18:14 -0800 Received: from ai.cluny.ensam.fr (VIDEO1 [193.48.142.71]) by boggy.ai.cluny.ensam.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3) with ESMTP id KAA28930 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:18:58 GMT Message-ID: <3A6BFA14.B438E641@ai.cluny.ensam.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:15:00 +0100 From: Julien Organization: Institut Image / ENSAM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: Possible ? References: <200101220831.AAA14914@asdf.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hi all, I just discover dmsdk and I'm sure it will be usefull for me in the futur. Just a question : Is dmsdk able to use mixed real time video input and 3d real time imaging for augmented reality applications ? Using the video as a background (directly in the back buffer) or as a texture (directly in the texture memory) for 3d real-time rendering (OpenGL) ? On wich plateform and video/3d cards ? More generaly, is dmsdk a good tool for mixed media like video and 3d ? Thanks, Julien. -- ______________________________ _______________________________ Julien ROGER | Institut Image / ENSAM Tel: +33 (0) 385.424.350 | http://www.ai.cluny.ensam.fr From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 22 08:17:52 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:17:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.SGI.COM ([192.48.153.1]:32304 "EHLO sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:17:38 -0800 Received: from pauhana.engr.sgi.com ([130.62.53.47]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA08453 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:17:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (travis@pauhana.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from travis@localhost) by pauhana.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28273; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Travis Message-Id: <200101221616.IAA28273@pauhana.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Possible ? To: roger@ai.cluny.ensam.fr (Julien) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:16:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Reply-To: travis@sgi.com (Mike Travis) In-Reply-To: <3A6BFA14.B438E641@ai.cluny.ensam.fr> from "Julien" at Jan 22, 2001 10:15:00 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hi Julien, Yes, real time video input and output, composited with graphics is one of SGI's primary markets. And dmSDK is being implemented to insure that that functionality works smoothly and reliably. We are taking what we learned from the O2, Octane, and Onyx video and graphics systems, and applying them to the cross-platform architecture of dmSDK. You should visit the http://www.khronos.org site for more information on OpenML, which enhances the audio, video and graphics interoperability. As to specific devices, there are plans for a variety of platforms, both at the low and high levels. Currently, we are supporting both IRIX and Linux with NT on the horizon. For the open source release, we currently support standard open source devices, like video4linux and the Open Sound System. For the developer's release, there is support for the high definition video available on Onyx3000. We will be announcing support for other devices in the coming weeks that will be demonstrated at NAB/2001. More information can be found at http://www.sgi.com/developers. We'd also like to hear about what types of applications and platforms you are most interested in, and what kinds of functionality would be useful to you. Regards, Mike Julien writes: > > Hi all, > > I just discover dmsdk and I'm sure it will be usefull for me > in the futur. > > Just a question : > Is dmsdk able to use mixed real time video input > and 3d real time imaging for augmented reality applications ? > Using the video as a background (directly in the back buffer) > or as a texture (directly in the texture memory) for 3d real-time > rendering (OpenGL) ? > On wich plateform and video/3d cards ? > > More generaly, is dmsdk a good tool for mixed media like video > and 3d ? > > Thanks, > Julien. > -- > ______________________________ _______________________________ > Julien ROGER | Institut Image / ENSAM > Tel: +33 (0) 385.424.350 | http://www.ai.cluny.ensam.fr > From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 22 14:14:28 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:14:08 -0800 Received: from smtp.wetafx.co.nz ([210.55.57.161]:1484 "EHLO wetafx.wetafx.co.nz") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:59 -0800 Received: from ozzie.wetafx.co.nz (ozzie.wetafx.co.nz [192.168.17.4]) by wetafx.wetafx.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA399822 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:13:52 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from elanor.wetafx.co.nz (IDENT:root@elanor.wetafx.co.nz [192.168.21.53]) by ozzie.wetafx.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA3325995; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:09:36 +1300 (TZ=NZD) Received: from wetafx.co.nz (IDENT:hameluck@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by elanor.wetafx.co.nz (8.9.3/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA07298; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:09:36 +1300 Message-ID: <3A6CAFA0.BE96D393@wetafx.co.nz> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:09:36 +1300 From: Jeff Hameluck Organization: Weta Digital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.15-3SGI_39smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Subject: IRIX? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hey... I've used the dmedia stuff on IRIX to develop things, this is what I have installed: hameluck@isildur:~[201]% showprods dmedia_dev I = Installed, R = Removed Name Date Description I dmedia_dev 10/10/2000 Digital Media Development Environment, 6.5.8m This "cross platform" dmsdk isn't quite the same, all sorts of changes have taken place in types and file naming, etc... which is fine. but I'm confused by various statements in the press releases, etc... and the actual dmsdk that can be downloaded. In the overview: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/dmsdk/index.html The first release of the dmSDK (version 1.0) was for the SGI 320 and 540 Windows NT ® Visual Workstations. The second release (version 2.0) currently supports IRIX ® and Linux ® workstations. In the press release: http://www.sgi.com/newsroom/press_releases/2001/january/dmsdk.html MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. (January 4, 2001)-SGI (NYSE: SGI), a leading provider of solutions for the digital media industry, today announced that the source code for its digital media software development kit (dmSDK) for the Linux® operating environment is now available to the open source community. The dmSDK toolkit shortens the time required to create digital media applications across the SGITM product line by allowing SGI software partners to write to a single application programming interface (API). The dmSDK source code is now available for download from SGI's open source developer Web site at http://www.sgi.com/developers/oss/. dmSDK provides Linux developers with a proven, cross-platform digital media API and is a key enabler allowing digital media developers to deliver applications for this increasing popular operating system. The cross-platform capability of dmSDK creates an easy bridge for current SGI developers wanting to leverage their IRIX® operating system software development to bring Linux products to market quickly. But sadly in the FAQ: Q: What platforms are supported? In its current release, the dmSDK open source builds on Red Hat 6.2 Linux with SGI ProPack 1.3-VW. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ So, my question is... how do I get this dmSDK on IRIX? Is it not quite avilable and the press release and overview are just hype and it's only on Linux for the time being? If so, what's the timeframe for IRIX? Or is it already an SGI product that we can install but it's not the dmedia_dev package? The tarball definitely doesn't want to compile on IRIX out of the box as the FAQ says. And as an aside... anyone reading this involved in Open Source at SGI know if SGI has ever given any thought to releasing IFL (The Image Format Library) Open Source? Not Image Vision (the image processing thing), just IFL (to read and write various image formats). We've ridden SGIs produt strategy and I've used IFL for our stuff under IRIX and under NT and now that SGI's jumped over to Linux (as we have) I felt a little boned because the same effort SGI put into porting/building SDKs for their big NT push wasn't put into porting libraries like IFL to Linux even though they'd be dead simple compared to porting to NT. We've brought it up to our sales rep here but being in New Zealand, it seemed to fall on deaf ears. IFL on Linux! It'd be a good thing! Jeff Hameluck Weta Digital Wellington, New Zealand From owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Mon Jan 22 16:08:07 2001 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:07:48 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:58966 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:07:29 -0800 Received: from pauhana.engr.sgi.com (pauhana.engr.sgi.com [130.62.53.47]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA24959 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:06:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (travis@pauhana.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from travis@localhost) by pauhana.engr.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA39272; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:06:36 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Travis Message-Id: <200101230006.QAA39272@pauhana.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: IRIX? To: hameluck@wetafx.co.nz (Jeff Hameluck) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:06:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Reply-To: travis@sgi.com (Mike Travis) In-Reply-To: <3A6CAFA0.BE96D393@wetafx.co.nz> from "Jeff Hameluck" at Jan 23, 2001 11:09:36 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-dmsdk@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;dmsdk-outgoing Hi Jeff, We are in the process of doing an IRIX release as we speak. Because of licensing issues, we haven't been able to "open source" the IRIX version, only provide it via the developer's program (which is "free" for the base membership). Stay tuned for more information for when it will be available. (By the way, which IRIX devices are you most interested in working with?) [The current dmsdk on the developer's program is a bit outdated, as it was the first non-NT release. And since then, OpenML has become a reality.] In regards to IFL, yes, there has been lots of enthusiasm about providing it open source (or at least "ported" to linux). But it needs to be "adopted" by someone to work through the source code to insure that it doesn't contain any proprietary code that we can not legally open source, and to do the actual work of making it happen. This is an unbelievable amount to work. But you are, by far not alone. That is probably up there as #1 or #2 for "most wanted libraries". So I'd assume that it will see the light of day. And more requests by customers will certainly help make it sooner! Regards, Mike Jeff Hameluck writes: ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > So, my question is... how do I get this dmSDK on IRIX? Is it not quite > avilable and the press release and overview are just hype and it's only > on Linux for the time being? If so, what's the timeframe for IRIX? Or > is it already an SGI product that we can install but it's not the > dmedia_dev package? The tarball definitely doesn't want to compile on > IRIX out of the box as the FAQ says. > > And as an aside... anyone reading this involved in Open Source at SGI > know if SGI has ever given any thought to releasing IFL (The Image > Format Library) Open Source? Not Image Vision (the image processing > thing), just IFL (to read and write various image formats). We've > ridden SGIs produt strategy and I've used IFL for our stuff under IRIX > and under NT and now that SGI's jumped over to Linux (as we have) I felt > a little boned because the same effort SGI put into porting/building > SDKs for their big NT push wasn't put into porting libraries like IFL to > Linux even though they'd be dead simple compared to porting to NT. > We've brought it up to our sales rep here but being in New Zealand, it > seemed to fall on deaf ears. IFL on Linux! It'd be a good thing! > > Jeff Hameluck > Weta Digital > Wellington, New Zealand >