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Re: FAM 2.7.0-pre2

To: "Viner, David" <dviner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FAM 2.7.0-pre2
From: Michael Raymond <mraymond@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:15:49 -0600
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    There are some tests including with fam but I don't know how good they
are.  I'm going to try to push out 2.7 this afternoon, or else do it on
Monday.  Next week I'll update the SourceForge CVS site and will give write
access to anyone who shows me that they're ready to checkin.
                                                            Michael

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:53:48AM -0800, Viner, David wrote:
> my completely unordered comments on releasing:
> 
> - are there any regression tests for fam on any platforms?  as we start to
> make more chages, it'd be awesome to know that we're not blowing away bits
> of functionality that others are using.
> 
> - echoing the open source mantra, "release early, release often".  i think
> we should have more releases of fam :)
> 
> - features that i'd like to see: kqueue support, more docs on the internals
> of fam (just browsing header files is taking me forever to learn what
> everything does - or does this exist already?)
> 
> - how about re-writing the fam daemon using apache portable runtime
> (http://apr.apache.org) ?  I don't know all the details of how that might
> work, but it seems like fam might be able to run on lots of platforms if it
> were possible to use apr as the system interface.  ('course, such low-level
> details like kernel modules will likely make such usage pretty hard... but
> we should think about it all the same.)
> 
> - is it possible to port the basic functionality to win32?
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Raymond [mailto:mraymond@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: Stefan Teleman
> Cc: Rolf Sponsel; fam@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: FAM 2.7.0-pre2
> 
> 
>     FAM has been idle for a long time so at this point I just want to push
> something out.  As soon as that's done I plan on opening up CVS on
> SourceForge and will allow in things like Solaris support as we move towards
> another (3.0?) release.
>     As to the process for the next release I'm open to suggestions.  The
> limited time that I can put into the project suggests that I act mainly just
> as a release manager.  As long as everything still "works" on IRIX, I think
> we (SGI) are happy to let people take FAM in whatever directions they like.
>     Michael Wardle is unfortunately no longer with the company.
>                                                  Thanks,
>                                                     Michael
> 
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:33:01PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I emailed fam@xxxxxxxxxxx and michael.wardle@xxxxxxxxxx way back in 
> > July, but i never got an answer back ... so i didnt' know what to do 
> > about it.
> > 
> > I do have my port for FAM 2.6.9 for SunOS 5.8 -- it is actually part 
> > of the KDE Solaris binaries available for download from KDE. It is 
> > very very fast and very stable -- i've been running it since May with 
> > no problems whatsoever, even over NFS.
> > 
> > Please let me know what to do. I can very easily put together a tar.gz 
> > package and upload it somewhere, or email it.
> > 
> > BTW, i built it with both Forte 7 and Forte 8. And i got confirmation 
> > from several people that it works just as well on SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 
> > 9).
> > 
> > --Stefan
> > 
> > -----
> > 
> > On Friday 21 November 2003 17:37, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > Great to se that FAM is begining to come to life again! :-)
> > >
> > > A question though - what about the support for Solaris?
> > >
> > > I recall Stefan Teleman, elected maintainer of KDE for Solaris,
> > > having done some stuff to improve FAM on the Solaris plattform.
> > >
> > > Has this, his work, managed to get into the 2.7.0 release.
> > > If not - I think it should (or are you of other opinion Stefan?)
> > >
> > > Please see email attached below:
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > / Rolf Sponsel
> > >
> > > Michael Raymond wrote:
> > > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/download/testing/fam-2.7.0-pre2.ta
> > > >r.gz
> > > >
> > > >     I've updated the pre-release of 2.7 to build correctly on
> > > > IRIX using the Freeware tools.  Please try this out.  If there's
> > > > no objections I'll push this out as the official release next
> > > > week on SourceForge and we can open up CVS for new work.
> > > >                                                 Thanks,
> > > >                                                        Michael
> > > > --
> > > > Michael A. Raymond
> > > > Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> > >
> > > - - - - - - - - A t t a c h m e n t - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >   Subject: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE & Sun GNOME
> > >          Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:25 -0400
> > >          From: Stefan Teleman <steleman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >  Organization: Disorganized
> > >            To: "For people using KDE on Solaris, with questions
> > > about KDE or Solaris" <kde-solaris@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > >    Rolf Sponsel <Rolf.Sponsel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will gladly make the FAM port sources and a FAM Sun pkg
> > > available.
> > >
> > > It's FAM in filesystem polling mode for now, but it is very fast.
> > > The performance improvement compared to KDE filesystem polling is
> > > about 3x.
> > >
> > > I am in the middle of porting it to kernel async callback mode, and
> > > i am about half-way through. This has to be done right, otherwise
> > > all hell breaks loose. :-)
> > >
> > > I have been running it on my Sun box (Solaris 8) since early May,
> > > and it has not shown any problems at all. My current (development)
> > > build of KDE 3.1.2 uses FAM, and the next Solaris release of KDE
> > > will definitely use FAM.
> > >
> > > If someone would be so kind and point me to the right direction as
> > > to whom to contact regarding FAM, i would greatly appreciate it! I
> > > would be very happy to provide the FAM project with the Sun pkg's
> > > and the Solaris port source.
> > >
> > > --Stefan
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:17, Rolf Sponsel wrote:
> > > > Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >     Some of them  like  FAM  and  MAD   depends on Gcc
> > > > > extensions and are  also very linux  dependent .
> > > > >     so I have  skipped  FAM but build MAD with GCC.
> > > > >
> > > > >            Stefan has mentioned that  He ported FAM to solaris
> > > > > , It would be  great to get hold of  that
> > > > >     port  !
> > > > >
> > > > > [... SNIP ...]
> > > > >
> > > > >    //Lars
> > > >
> > > > I agree, that's great! :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'd suggest Stefan feeds his work back to the FAM project so that
> > > > his efforts become integrated into the next release of the
> > > > product (and maybe politely ask for a "quick" patched FAM 2.6.11
> > > > release).
> > > >
> > > > But I'm not quite sure what "has ported FAM to solaris" means?
> > > >
> > > > Has Stefan patched FAM 2.6.10 with the findings we spotted when
> > > > compiling FAM on Solaris (and also have reported back via the FAM
> > > > mailing list) or has he (you Stefan) managed to implement a
> > > > kernel monitor for Solaris so that it works without having to
> > > > poll the file system periodically? That would even be greater!
> > > > :-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
> > steleman@xxxxxxxxxx                          -Monty Python
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Michael A. Raymond              Office: (651) 683-3434
> Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead
> 

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Michael A. Raymond              Office: (651) 683-3434
Core OS Scheduling Group        Real-Time Lead

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